(Big spoiler) Future content could be based on...

[DavyDavy]

This is actually a repost of a post I did earlier this morning on reddit. Beside the speculations, I think it explains well how FFXIV connects with another chapter in the series.

First of all, if you haven't finished the main storyline, close this post now. I'm going to spoil the very end of the story. don't spoil that to yourself, it's really fun, and it will give you chills. Just take your time and finish it, it's not worth ruining it by reading a post on reddit. To everyone else, what I'm going to talk is so huge that it could be the theme of a whole expansion, if not more. I'm not going to talk about the upcoming content like crystal tower or the next turns in coil.

[DavyDavy]

I've been bugged by this since i found out the name of Lahabrea, and I lost my sleep since I finished the main storyline. I haven't seen a post about it yet, so I decided it's time for me to see if anyone is excited as me after seeing the final cutscene, the one with all the Ascians.

As we all know, a big name is mentioned by them. Zodiark. When I heard it, I knew that Final Fantasy XIV is really going to make something huge about Ivalice Mythology.
It's not only the fact that they name a random thing from another installement in the saga, it goes really deep within the storyline. As I mentioned, a bell was ringing since i heard the name Lahabrea. And then, we happen to discover three other names of Ascians: Pashtarot, Igeyohrm and Nabriales.

[Acaelus]

As we all know, a big name is mentioned by them. Zodiark. When I heard it, I knew that Final Fantasy XIV is really going to make something huge about Ivalice Mythology.

What this means is that the influence that FFXII has over FFXIV is WAY bigger than the most would expect.

Yeah see I can't get excited. I played 12 for 2 hours after I bought it at release, then I gave it away to my friend because it was terrible. Just.. god awful. The only good thing about a game set in Ivalice was Tactics because it was a brilliant game, incredible replay value, and the story telling was unlike any previous FF, it wasn't predictable. It's actually one of the few gems Square has outside of Xenogears.

[DavyDavy]

What this means is that the influence that FFXII has over FFXIV is WAY bigger than the most would expect. These names are, in fact, part of Ivalice's mythology. They are 3 of the scions of light, a counterpart to the Scions of darkness, which are the Espers you can summon in FFXII. So there is a 1/1 parallel between every Ascian and every Esper, except for two. The first is the thirteenth, the one who never committed rebellion but was bound because the Gods were afraid of its power: Zodiark.

[DavyDavy]

As a further proof there is also that weird rune that appears in front of Lahabrea every once in a while. I was really annoyed at first by this, since i saw no meaning on it... until i remembered by the glyphs that are used to summon the espers in Final Fantasy XII. In particular, I want you to look at the second glyph in the top left, which is the one that is used to summon Mateus the corrupt, the parallel to Lahabrea among the scions of Darkness (both of them are under the zodiac sign of Pisces, the fish). Take the top part, rotate it by 180 degrees. Now that thing has a meaning, it's no longer a "why does he have a red tribal in front of his face?" thing.
the traditional primals AND the espers from Ivalice. Not only Zodiark. The game is actully hinting that we could get all thirteen the espers.

[DavyDavy]

There is already a connection between Primals and the Ascians, as in 1.0 we learned that the Ascians were the ones who taught the beastman how to summon the primals. And moreso, it is Lahabrea who gives the Ultima Weapon to the empire. Was that only fan service, or was it a reference to Ultima, the high seraph, the scion under the Zodiac sign of Virgo, the one who started the rebellion against the Twelve gods of Ivalice, and the other Scion that has no parallel amongst the Scions of Light?

[DavyDavy]

We also are part of the "scions of the seventh dawn"... If they already knew that they were going to refer the "Scions lore" from the XII, why did they call the organization that way? I know this is pure speculation, but my brain can't stop thinking about this and getting so excited... So many possibilities open up from here.
And how does all this relate to the image of a corrupt Hyadelin we got in the last scene we see our character?
TL;DR Who cares if Lightning will appear in a FATE, the whole story is a huge reference to FFXII, give Espers please.

Sorry for multiposting, 1k characters limit.

[Shuon]

awesome, you might just be right

i didnt play 12 so i missed out on the nuances, but it sounds absolutely credible. i wont be surprised if all 12 ascians were there at the ending, and it would be pretty mind blowing to realise that the ascians are truly the darkness aspects of the Twelve in 14.

[Enkidoh]

Cameo reference and nothing more - FFXIV has about as much direct connection to the Ivalice games as it has to FFIII (ala, the Crystal Tower), FFXI (similar player races to the races of Vana'diel and beastmen races), FFVI (magitek and the whole 'evil technologically-advanced empire' thing), FFVII (planet-threatening meteor/Lifestream-subsitute, materia), etc etc. FFXIV is full of references to all FF games, without directly connecting itself to any in particular.

And the Scions of the Seventh Dawn is just a restructuring of Minfilia's earlier organization of Echo-users from version 1.0, the Path of the Twelve, amalgamated with the Circle of Knowing (Y'shtola clearly states this early on when you first join the Scions) - it's not a reference to FFXII at all.

Also you can simply make one post and then edit it endlessly to get around the 1000-character limit by the way instead of duplicating posts.

[shinros]

Very interesting. We will have to wait and see if square expands the story of the game. Have you read my theory on how the acians were created? Here is my topic what do you think? Personally I think zodiark is just the name of the giant dark crystal he/she is the mirror of hydaelyn.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...er-spoilers%29