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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashnaheen View Post

    I also agree with Asiaine's post. Lately I define 'casual' as 'someone who can't be bothered to learn and pay attention' moreso than 'has limited time'.


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    TomTom: You would be surprised how much reacting slowly to situations in XI was bad. There were few 1 shot gimicks in that game, but you can easily get behind, drop DPS, mismanage CDs etc to the point you could no longer outlast the enemy.
    Yeah, xi was a lot more creative in that regard, employing different kinds of moves the party had to deal with instead of slapping on 5 digits worth of damage and calling it a day. I think the twitch/one shot mechanics are also having a bad effect on the community, where people start to trivialize each other in df/pf parties.
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    I hate it when people use the rose tinted glasses bullshite.
    No actually I don't have on rose tinted glasses I could make a list of 10+ reasons why I liked 11 better.

    The rose tinted glasses statement is so god damn dumb , oh nothing in the past can ever be better because you must have been wearing rose tinted glasses
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    Hmm there are still people that fail at Titan hard, let alone his extreme version.

    Hell, a lot of people still die to Ultima. Just wait till they put coil in duty finder, and we'll
    get mass "it's still too hard" threads.
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    They're just catering casuals. Nothing new under the sun!
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    Nysneirdre Lauriel
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkghyom View Post
    They're just catering casuals. Nothing new under the sun!
    Yea pretty much this. Its all about the money now so they dumb down the game to appease the casuals and draw them into the game. The casuals want everything changed to be soloable and super easy. Heck the leveling game from 1 to 50 is so easy, you could probably clear it half asleep afk auto attacking. Heck just look how super safe the open world is! Fates are a joke, most of the mobs don't even aggro you, the zones are super small and there are teleport nodes everywhere. I miss the old Everquest days where it was dangerous to travel. Mobs chased you down until you either zoned or died! In these current MMOs you can just mount up and herp a derp through the zone with no worries.
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    You talk about content being too easy but then you want solo content. Do you have end game on farm?

    FF11 wasn't hard. It was time consuming and quite simply a bad game. The numbers prove it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by remidi View Post
    You talk about content being too easy but then you want solo content. Do you have end game on farm?

    FF11 wasn't hard. It was time consuming and quite simply a bad game. The numbers prove it.....
    A "bad game" yet lasted longer than most MMO's these days and was SE's most profitable game? By what metric are you measuring this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    A "bad game" yet lasted longer than most MMO's these days and was SE's most profitable game? By what metric are you measuring this?
    Thats why there are a bunch of FF11 players playing FF12 and complaining how bad it is on these forums when they are playing end game content or have multiple 50's. It was a bad game..we all know it. Sorry you liked it. The main point of this post was the OP was saying this game was too easy. I know you are easily offended but please stay on topic.

    By the looks of it the OP has zero end game experience as well. These forums are filled with trash...
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    Last edited by remidi; 02-14-2014 at 01:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remidi View Post
    Thats why there are a bunch of FF11 players playing FF12 and complaining how bad it is on these forums when they are playing end game content or have multiple 50's. It was a bad game..we all know it. Sorry you liked it. The main point of this post was the OP was saying this game was too easy. I know you are easily offended but please stay on topic.

    By the looks of it the OP has zero end game experience as well. These forums are filled with trash...
    I think you're proving your own point
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    Quote Originally Posted by remidi View Post
    Thats why there are a bunch of FF11 players playing FF12 and complaining how bad it is on these forums when they are playing end game content or have multiple 50's.
    Are you comparing XI as it is currently? The reason is because it was "dumbed down and simplified" just like they did with XIV 2.0! After the release of Abyssea in 2010 (raising the level cap after it wasn't touched for years as well as make the game a vertical progression one), XI saw it's largest population loss. But I digress.

    Quote Originally Posted by remidi View Post
    It was a bad game..we all know it. Sorry you liked it. The main point of this post was the OP was saying this game was too easy. I know you are easily offended but please stay on topic.
    XIV is easy, period. Sorry, but instakill gimmicks and bad netcode doesn't make a fight hard, it makes it tedious. The fights themselves are all scripted (so much that you can literally chart the whole fight) and have no random element to them. There is no adaption, just memorization. XIV's boss battles boil down to the "don't stand in the fire" mechanic WoW did back in Molten Core!

    Quote Originally Posted by remidi View Post
    By the looks of it the OP has zero end game experience as well. These forums are filled with trash...
    Talk about being mad about video games.
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