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    Please buff Succor.

    It's a horribly UP spell. Double its effectiveness. Make Sacred Soil have a 40% chance for the free Succor or make the 15% chance guarantee that Succor crits.

    My only other request for Scholar is turning off their automatic usage of spells, and Eos's aoe regen should be on a 30 sec cd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    It's a horribly UP spell. Double its effectiveness. Make Sacred Soil have a 40% chance for the free Succor or make the 15% chance guarantee that Succor crits.

    My only other request for Scholar is turning off their automatic usage of spells, and Eos's aoe regen should be on a 30 sec cd.
    succor is joke compared to medica2
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    Double will make it OP. I agree with the chance for a free succor on SS though needs to be upped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laiyenu View Post
    Double will make it OP. I agree with the chance for a free succor on SS though needs to be upped.
    At double effectiveness it'd still be worse than Medica II, only getting close if it crits. Really, what rather pushes whm over the top is how strong regen is at the moment.
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    I would prefer double heal but half the shield. E.g

    Sucker
    Potency 300
    Produces a shield that is equal to half the hp healed.

    Still worse then medica2 . But thats fine.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 09-15-2013 at 08:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    succor is joke compared to medica2

    That's because succor is Medica I's equivalent. Your fairie AoE is comparative to Medica II. And yes, it's worse... But Medica II is really the main benefit of playing a WHm over a SCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draemos View Post
    That's because succor is Medica I's equivalent. Your fairie AoE is comparative to Medica II. And yes, it's worse... But Medica II is really the main benefit of playing a WHm over a SCH.
    No. Faerie is equivalent to regen, except it's got a long ass cd because it's aoe instead. It has no upfront healing.
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    Double potency would be too OP, it would be Adloquium but AoE. I think 200 potency would be about right, maybe 250, and possibly have a 15% chance to make the next Adloquium an instant cast, cost nothing, and 100% crit. That last part would probably be too OP though
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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    Double potency would be too OP, it would be Adloquium but AoE. I think 200 potency would be about right, maybe 250, and possibly have a 15% chance to make the next Adloquium an instant cast, cost nothing, and 100% crit. That last part would probably be too OP though

    Sometimes I gotta wonder if you've paid attention to the healing total of medica II, which is WAY more than 600 damage prevention.
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    Well I'm only level 35, so I've never seen it in action. I know its better, but we can't have the exact same spell with a bubble effect. It'd be a cheap way to go.

    I posted this in another thread, but it works well here:

    In situations where everybodys HP is dropping super fast from unavoidable AoE, there isn't much I can do. Everybody is constantly losing HP, but I can't just cast Adloquium on the tank to heal the dps, since he's taking that AoE plus the damage of the boss/adds. So I have to focus on my healing, and hope my fairy heals the dps, until a point where the tank is fairly stabilized and I can spare 2.3s to cast and another 2.5s gcd.

    It feels almost 100% useless to use Succor in these situations. It heals for me around 150 HP, and with the constant damage the bubble is eaten instantly. I'd have to spam succor around 8 times to fully heal everybody from them being around 40-60% health. I know that's not its use, and I would be instantly OOM if I did that of course, but the crazy low potency bubble on it makes it feel pointless to cast for a bubble, and same for the heals. I feel like Succor really has no place on my action bar. I don't know if it changes later, but that's how it feels to me right now.

    Maybe it would be better if it was made into an AoE 250 potency Bubble. I feel like it needs to specialize. Maybe if it was a pure bubble, it would be good to cast BEFORE an AoE to prevent the damage, as opposed to trying to work with a measly cure and bubble effect that don't really do much of anything together.
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