Please take the penalty for leaving a dungeon out...

[Tijio]

We already wait 1hr+ just to get the group.. Then more often than not, the party just sucks... Tank not marking targets or using flash/enmity combo correctly, White mage not sleeping secondary targets, not using their cure > freecure proc > cure 2 rotation correctly. Or just spamming cure 2 and medica. Or the Dps being lost in transit. (Running around aimlessly) or targeting the wrong mobs, waking slept mobs, essentially taking aggro from the tank, and making the whm's life a pain, trying to cure everyone (This is why we mark mobs people, 2 comes after 1 and before 3) Basically, all I am saying is, Why should people be punished for other peoples faults. I'm not gonna sit in a dungeon full of mindless folks that don't know their role. Yes, I understand I take a risk of it when solo registering for a dungeon, but still... I have to suffer the time penalty even after waiting the rediculous amount of time it took to get in??

/endrant

[Itseotle]

No, and here's why. I'm a Tank and a que up, get a group instantly, look at the DPS, determine there bad and should feel bad about queing with me, so I drop. Re-que instantly, get another instant group, check the DPS... you get the idea, and if you don't... sorry?

[Issac]

We already wait 1hr+ just to get the group.. Then more often than not, the party just sucks... Tank not marking targets or using flash/enmity combo correctly, White mage not sleeping secondary targets, not using their cure > freecure proc > cure 2 rotation correctly. Or just spamming cure 2 and medica. Or the Dps being lost in transit. (Running around aimlessly) or targeting the wrong mobs, waking slept mobs, essentially taking aggro from the tank, and making the whm's life a pain, trying to cure everyone (This is why we mark mobs people, 2 comes after 1 and before 3) Basically, all I am saying is, Why should people be punished for other peoples faults. I'm not gonna sit in a dungeon full of mindless folks that don't know their role. Yes, I understand I take a risk of it when solo registering for a dungeon, but still... I have to suffer the time penalty even after waiting the rediculous amount of time it take to get in??

/endrant

Wait, wait. You're serious? *hides a smirk*
J-just a moment.
*belligerent laughter echoes from the adjacent room*

[Mazley]

yup not going to happen. We have morons dropping group cause there is no penalty. So its not going to happen

[Tijio]

So you are saying we should have to suffer the party even if they are horrible, wont listen to helpful advise, or just plain rude? We should have to suffer a repair bill and a headache if we stay. Or a Time penalty for leaving the group? Honestly that is just garbage. But on the other hand I understand people being able to abuse it if they take off the penalty. "Down the certain boss they need for the item they want then leave everyone hanging" type deal. I'm just at a loss of words really when it comes to dungeons and how they are set up. Maybe implement a voting system or something... idk

[VitaminMT]

If you're consistently running into bad groups who do not listen to advise as you say, then man tough luck but you'll just have to roll with it. I have a feeling you're exaggerating though; most "bad" groups I've run into on DF are usually willing to learn, and come out better for it. You do get the occasional Gaston Gizmo, but those are usually few and far between.

Sucks, bro.

[Invz]

No, and here's why. I'm a Tank and a que up, get a group instantly, look at the DPS, determine there bad and should feel bad about queing with me, so I drop. Re-que instantly, get another instant group, check the DPS... you get the idea, and if you don't... sorry?

Is that so much worse than the scenario we have now? A tank queues for a party, party is bad, tank goes AFK till ppl leave the run so he has no penalty.

[Crica]

Is that so much worse than the scenario we have now? A tank queues for a party, party is bad, tank goes AFK till ppl leave the run so he has no penalty.

well yes its worse - tank can INSTA queue instead of having to WAIT for ppl to leave =P

either way, its not going to be removed, since the servers would BLOW UP from ppl spamming them non-stop queuing...

have to have a timer of some sort to help keep server load in check...

general public doenst tend to think of technical aspects of things, they just QQ about stuff they dont like

[Iolair_Silverwing]

I just got done with Haukke Manor, and had two tanks bail right after we got the first two keys (and two chests) they each basically came in to grab loot, then left our party. I say no, do not take away penalty, in fact it should be more harsh.

[Terius]

So you are saying we should have to suffer the party even if they are horrible, wont listen to helpful advise, or just plain rude? We should have to suffer a repair bill and a headache if we stay. Or a Time penalty for leaving the group? Honestly that is just garbage. But on the other hand I understand people being able to abuse it if they take off the penalty. "Down the certain boss they need for the item they want then leave everyone hanging" type deal. I'm just at a loss of words really when it comes to dungeons and how they are set up. Maybe implement a voting system or something... idk

Yes, you have to suffer.

Thats the price you pay for using DF over a Free Company/Server LS Group. You dont get to pick who you grp with, and its where all the guild rejects go. (I use it myself sometimes, I just accept the grp and power through because any serious runs are done with my FC or a server LS grp.)