I understand why people pay for titan runs now..

[The-Alchemist]

Its pretty easy to gear up in DL gear and mytho gear.. Farming primals for your weapon is where the fail comes in. Its the only MMO I have ever played where hours of farming nets you nothing but a giant repair bill and rage.

[Crica]

play with skilled friends instead of random strangers with random gaming skills if you are shooting for PERFECT runs?

otherwise, it will be a gamble on if you wind up with skilled players or not

[reality_check]

play with friends who live close to the servers instead of random players with random gaming skills?

Fixed.

10char

[Gangaloo]

Its pretty easy to gear up in DL gear and mytho gear.. Farming primals for your weapon is where the fail comes in. Its the only MMO I have ever played where hours of farming nets you nothing but a giant repair bill and rage.

Is this your first MMO?

[Crica]

Fixed.

10char

im far from servers i have no issues while playing with skilled friends/players

[The-Alchemist]

Is this your first MMO?

uhh no.. I have played about 20 or so..

[Jynxii]

First question is, what are the other MMOs you have been playing?

In regards to the primal items, there is definitely RNG in the drops, but also RNG in the party. Your post is incredibly vague so I'm not sure if these 'hours of farming' are resulting in successful runs but no drops, or unsuccessful runs. I'm going to assume they are successful runs since you post title seems to reference getting a weapon. In this case, RNG is RNG, but if you're using DF you are probably going to be RNG'ing against the party as well, and if you get another WHM, assuming the item finally drops, your chance of getting it is halved, and halved every time you queue into a 'new' WHM.

Actually, rereading your post would suggest that you're getting stuck into some pretty cruddy groups Yes, the HM Primals require a bit of coordination and effort, but that doesn't make their design bad. Hell, you don't even have to fight any trash to get to them! There are also any number of reasons why the fight can fail, and stupid is as stupid does. Pretty sure other MMOs have RNG and their share of uncoordinated players.

Fixed.

10char

He never implied failure on Titan (his gear isn't Titan ready anyway), he implied being unable to obtain ANY primal weapon, which could very well include Ifrit or Garuda. He also didn't specify why he was unable to do so, so implying it is because he or the players he is doing them with can't dodge Titan's WotL is pointless. He implied that people pay for HM Titan so they can actually get a non-green weapon because either a) groups fail, b) RNG sucks or c) it is much easier and requires less time investment. I still haven't figured out why you MUST HAVE a relic if you aren't heading into BCoB. :x

[reality_check]

im far from servers i have no issues while playing with skilled friends/players

What part of the Titan fight takes skill? It's a set rotation of "MOVE OUT OF THE AOE"

[Rainbowz]

uhh no.. I have played about 20 or so..

Maple story doesn't count.

[Gangaloo]

uhh no.. I have played about 20 or so..

Very doubtful.