Materia System

[Sentinel]

How DARE Crafters have a purpose!

As a guy who spent almost 200k in leveling and gearing my lvl 50 ARM, I second that!! I should level more crafting professions to lvl 50 just to look at them and not be allowed to make a single gil in the game!

[Reika]

HQ gear spiritbonds 50% faster. Vendors don't sell HQ.

Buying from vendors also sucks gil out of the economy faster than the markets ever could.

So, buying from vendors not only wastes your time, but also makes us all much more poor in the long run. GG.

thats false.

[Issac]

thats false.

False? Put on a NQ and HQ ring of the same type and level. Run CM. Check SB values post-run.
How about a little scientific backing before you retort someone with BS.

As a quick aside, I have a lot of experience in this. I have observed for days on end, spiritbonding on crafting, gathering, and battle classes. In every case, HQ items always, always SB'ed faster.

Now my foot is in my mouth about the 50% statistic as that's a rough guesstimate. It might be 33%. In any case, it is most certainly faster SBing HQ gear. Significantly so.

[ispano]

False? Put on a NQ and HQ ring of the same type and level. Run CM. Check SB values post-run.
How about a little scientific backing before you retort someone with BS.

As a quick aside, I have a lot of experience in this. I have observed for days on end, spiritbonding on crafting, gathering, and battle classes. In every case, HQ items always, always SB'ed faster.

Now my foot is in my mouth about the 50% statistic as that's a rough guesstimate. It might be 33%. In any case, it is most certainly faster SBing HQ gear. Significantly so.

It is indeed faster, though like you, I don't know how much faster. Just wish I could get some Tier IV Crafting/Gathering Materia. Converted like 10+ of the ilvl 55 Wrists, most HQ, and not a single IV.

[Nanga]

As a guy who spent almost 200k in leveling and gearing my lvl 50 ARM, I second that!! I should level more crafting professions to lvl 50 just to look at them and not be allowed to make a single gil in the game!

It's easy to do. A tradeskill can be leveled from 1-50 in a day.

[Dreamer]

I've made tons and tons of gil from the markets selling this very materia. I've materia'd many a piece of gear by doing AK runs where I wear my spiritbonding gear for trash, then switch to my good gear for the boss fights. HQ gear plus +spiritbond items makes for a very fast convert...

[Reika]

hm it is faster by a bit i see, but is it worth triple of what NQ sells for if you sell (as it is being sold on my server), probably not. Not because of the gamble at least. If the stuff at least had that better chance of turning into a higher grade like they said it would then perhaps.

[ispano]

hm it is faster by a bit i see, but is it worth triple of what NQ sells for if you sell (as it is being sold on my server), probably not. Not because of the gamble at least. If the stuff at least had that better chance of turning into a higher grade like they said it would then perhaps.

You likely have to SB ilvl 55 stuff to get IV Materia, I've gotten IV from Aetheryte Rings so far. An ilvl 50 ring has 0 chance to be IV though. Will always be Tier III. Also, like Issac, I have little issue churning out HQ parts to SB.

[Issac]

hm it is faster by a bit i see, but is it worth triple of what NQ sells for if you sell (as it is being sold on my server), probably not. Not because of the gamble at least. If the stuff at least had that better chance of turning into a higher grade like they said it would then perhaps.

I turn HQ out like candy. Materia sells faster over here. My eyes are dollar symbols. Do the math.

[Reika]

You likely have to SB ilvl 55 stuff to get IV Materia, I've gotten IV from Aetheryte Rings so far. An ilvl 50 ring has 0 chance to be IV though. Will always be Tier III. Also, like Issac, I have little issue churning out HQ parts to SB.

I'm aware of that, but the chance is extremely low, close to non-existant. one guy said 30% but I'm sure its much lower. I've converted many ilvl55 gear and haven't gotten a single IV. Its something I'm not going to waste my time continuing to try. With Crystal tower/ilvl80 around the corner, and the ability to get ilvl90 with some courage, it isn't a very good way to spend my time in ARR.

I turn HQ out like candy. Materia sells faster over here. My eyes are dollar symbols. Do the math.

And if you didn't agree with me, that Darklight Armor would probably be Darksteel armor, and you would be relishing in the awesomeness of your crafted gear. But you arent.... A small % of people bother with the shit, and on legacy servers the only people doing any relishing in the ilvl70 crafted are those who had materials left over from 1.0. You can go play a game of "spot the crafted" and find out who all are actually settling for darklight, which is good enough. And What sells like hotcakes for hot prices is the materia for relic weapons and perhaps vit materia for those casters who want more HP from their lowly crafted rings.

Because of the retarded stat caps, the value of other materia like str materia just isn't there, and crafting and gathering materia, especially gathering materia, just plain takes too damn long to create. They put +1 spiritbond on the best crafted crafter rings, but it still takes forever. Meteor survivor ring, still takes forever. Add patriots choker and wristband, still takes forever. Fact is they slowed down the rate of spiritbonding tremendously, and refused to account for how long crafters and gatherers take to spiritbond before the change. They do things like this.