Cross Class abilities for PLD fairly useless

[Sephirah]

I love playing a PLD, but most of their cross class abilities are fairly useless in a group setting.

Cure - useless unless you're soloing and want to exchange all your MP for HP.

Foresight - The only useful ability

Skull Sunder - absolutely pointless

Fracture - Not terrible, but you wouldn't use a gcd on this instead of one of your normal threat generating abilities.

Protect - Useless in a group setting

Bloodbath - useless with the amount of dmg pld can do

Raise - only helpful when out of combat/out in the open world to help others

Mercy Stroke - Not much point in using this unless you're soloing.

Stoneskin - This would be usefull if there wasn't always a healer that was already casting this on everyone.

[hola]

pld need cross class skill?

ROFL

[Sephirah]

pld need cross class skill?

ROFL

It's clear to me from your other posts you are unhappy with the current balance between WAR and PLD, but that isn't what this thread is about.

This is also not about whether or not we NEED them, the fact is, WE DON'T. But that is not a good thing. They are there to be used, when you have an extra 5 abilities and only 1 of them is remotely useful then there is something wrong.

The fact that PLD is good without using any of these cross-class abilities is irrelevant to the topic.

[Supersomething]

Ya our cross class abilities need some work. I would like to have at least more than one decent ability.

[TaalAzura]

Bloodbath - macro with fight or flight duh

[Sephirah]

Bloodbath - macro with fight or flight duh

I don't mean to burst your bubble but that still doesn't do much. In 30 seconds with a 2.5s global cooldown you get 12 skill uses. Just for fun, lets assume that every one of your attacks as a PLD hit for an average of 400 (not going to happen, at least I haven't seen dps go that high, maybe coils gear would be different), that would be 4800 dmg across 30 seconds, 25% of that is 1200, across 30 seconds. That is not very useful. More realistically this number will be even lower, probably around 2000-3000 dmg, and 500-750 healing over 30 seconds, or 17-25 hps.

[Illya]

PLD is already OP with just their base skills. PLD can tank ilvl 90 content (Bahamut's Coil) in ilvl 70 gear. What use do they have for cross-class skills?

[Sephirah]

PLD is already OP with just their base skills. PLD can tank ilvl 90 content (Bahamut's Coil) in ilvl 70 gear. What use do they have for cross-class skills?

Once again, the fact that they are viable without them is irrelevant to the topic. If you want to complain about PLD being "OP" then do it in a different thread.

There is no point in giving a class 5 abilities and then saying, oh well you don't need them anyway so it doesn't matter, we'll just give you things you won't use.

[Hachiko]

Surprise! Cross class abilities from Marauders suck because Marauder Abilities suck in general.

Also, Stoneskin is VERY usable in a large number of situations in the game currently. It's just a matter of knowing when to use it.

[MomoOG]

I would gladly drop one, or even two, of my "prized" mitigation cool downs for a useful cure so that I could actually feel like a PLD.