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    Tijio Blayze
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    Please take the penalty for leaving a dungeon out...

    We already wait 1hr+ just to get the group.. Then more often than not, the party just sucks... Tank not marking targets or using flash/enmity combo correctly, White mage not sleeping secondary targets, not using their cure > freecure proc > cure 2 rotation correctly. Or just spamming cure 2 and medica. Or the Dps being lost in transit. (Running around aimlessly) or targeting the wrong mobs, waking slept mobs, essentially taking aggro from the tank, and making the whm's life a pain, trying to cure everyone (This is why we mark mobs people, 2 comes after 1 and before 3) Basically, all I am saying is, Why should people be punished for other peoples faults. I'm not gonna sit in a dungeon full of mindless folks that don't know their role. Yes, I understand I take a risk of it when solo registering for a dungeon, but still... I have to suffer the time penalty even after waiting the rediculous amount of time it took to get in??

    /endrant
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Diabolos
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    No, and here's why. I'm a Tank and a que up, get a group instantly, look at the DPS, determine there bad and should feel bad about queing with me, so I drop. Re-que instantly, get another instant group, check the DPS... you get the idea, and if you don't... sorry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itseotle View Post
    No, and here's why. I'm a Tank and a que up, get a group instantly, look at the DPS, determine there bad and should feel bad about queing with me, so I drop. Re-que instantly, get another instant group, check the DPS... you get the idea, and if you don't... sorry?
    Is that so much worse than the scenario we have now? A tank queues for a party, party is bad, tank goes AFK till ppl leave the run so he has no penalty.
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    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invz View Post
    Is that so much worse than the scenario we have now? A tank queues for a party, party is bad, tank goes AFK till ppl leave the run so he has no penalty.
    well yes its worse - tank can INSTA queue instead of having to WAIT for ppl to leave =P

    either way, its not going to be removed, since the servers would BLOW UP from ppl spamming them non-stop queuing...

    have to have a timer of some sort to help keep server load in check...

    general public doenst tend to think of technical aspects of things, they just QQ about stuff they dont like
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijio View Post
    We already wait 1hr+ just to get the group.. Then more often than not, the party just sucks... Tank not marking targets or using flash/enmity combo correctly, White mage not sleeping secondary targets, not using their cure > freecure proc > cure 2 rotation correctly. Or just spamming cure 2 and medica. Or the Dps being lost in transit. (Running around aimlessly) or targeting the wrong mobs, waking slept mobs, essentially taking aggro from the tank, and making the whm's life a pain, trying to cure everyone (This is why we mark mobs people, 2 comes after 1 and before 3) Basically, all I am saying is, Why should people be punished for other peoples faults. I'm not gonna sit in a dungeon full of mindless folks that don't know their role. Yes, I understand I take a risk of it when solo registering for a dungeon, but still... I have to suffer the time penalty even after waiting the rediculous amount of time it take to get in??

    /endrant
    Wait, wait. You're serious? *hides a smirk*
    J-just a moment.
    *belligerent laughter echoes from the adjacent room*
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    Bishop Highstar
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    yup not going to happen. We have morons dropping group cause there is no penalty. So its not going to happen
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    Tijio Blayze
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    So you are saying we should have to suffer the party even if they are horrible, wont listen to helpful advise, or just plain rude? We should have to suffer a repair bill and a headache if we stay. Or a Time penalty for leaving the group? Honestly that is just garbage. But on the other hand I understand people being able to abuse it if they take off the penalty. "Down the certain boss they need for the item they want then leave everyone hanging" type deal. I'm just at a loss of words really when it comes to dungeons and how they are set up. Maybe implement a voting system or something... idk
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    Terius Palemoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijio View Post
    So you are saying we should have to suffer the party even if they are horrible, wont listen to helpful advise, or just plain rude? We should have to suffer a repair bill and a headache if we stay. Or a Time penalty for leaving the group? Honestly that is just garbage. But on the other hand I understand people being able to abuse it if they take off the penalty. "Down the certain boss they need for the item they want then leave everyone hanging" type deal. I'm just at a loss of words really when it comes to dungeons and how they are set up. Maybe implement a voting system or something... idk
    Yes, you have to suffer.

    Thats the price you pay for using DF over a Free Company/Server LS Group. You dont get to pick who you grp with, and its where all the guild rejects go. (I use it myself sometimes, I just accept the grp and power through because any serious runs are done with my FC or a server LS grp.)
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    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terius View Post
    Yes, you have to suffer.

    Thats the price you pay for using DF over a Free Company/Server LS Group. You dont get to pick who you grp with, and its where all the guild rejects go. (I use it myself sometimes, I just accept the grp and power through because any serious runs are done with my FC or a server LS grp.)

    hahahahaha!!! i wish i could like this post a million times....

    the truth will set you free!!!

    ty for the lol!
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    Alishandra Voqar
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    If you play a tank or healer...or...you know...make some friends...have patience to do things with people (most don't, they just want theirs NOW, which is why duty finder appeals) - then you don't have long queues.

    I tank, run with a healer and bard, and we have instant queues for everything. Easy.
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