Crit vs Det

[Ramsey]

Just curious from everyone's experience which stat is more desirable? Particularly as a White Mage. Just threw together an Alkalurops+1 for the GF and am not sure what materia to meld to it.

Feel free to direct me to a thread where this has been beaten to death for healers, but I wasn't able to find one in the first few pages.

[Animation]

Off-topic but what did you need to make a Alkalurops?

Crit: How much your heals will crit.
Det: How much you heal normaly.

Raise the lowest one as both are useful.

[Ramsey]

I do know what both stats do, but I wasn't sure if the values were equivalent... Dancing Mad's calculators indicate that 9 critical rate and 6 determination (the value on a Tier IV materia) add the same % to overall healing, giver or take a tenth of a percent. Surprised to see they're so even. I suppose determination wins out simply because the increased healing would be even and not bursty.

As for the Alkalurops, please look at XIVDB: http://xivdb.com/?search/alkalurops

[TeddyPrime]

Determination only affects the healing that you receive, not the healing that you do to others...

[Ramsey]

Determination only affects the healing that you receive, not the healing that you do to others...

Utterly false. The wording "increases healing recovered by spells" is slightly misleading, but it means the amount your healing spells recover (on anyone.) It does not affect healing received at all.

[Rizzo]

Determination only affects the healing that you receive, not the healing that you do to others...

From where do people keep getting this completely wrong information? I see your main is an arcanist, but if you cast a WHM Regen on other people, it will tic for the same amount on yourself as it will on anyone else. Pretty sure Determination affects the heals you cast.

On topic, my suggestion would be to see if any spells or traits directly benefit from crit. For the SCH, shields receive a direct benefit from crit (bigger shields). This sounds pretty groovy.

For WHM, your Cure 3 will get an automatic crit 15% of the time when casting Cure 2. Pretty low chance since you really can't spam Cure 2 and expect to have a mana bar for longer than 10 seconds. Other than that, there are no beneficial effects for crit. For WHM, I would suggest focusing mainly on Determination.

[NakoSuri]

It seems that the general consensus on stat weights for WHM are as follows: MND > PIE > Determination > Spell Speed > Critical Chance > VIT. This is based purely on information I have found on various web sites, I play SCH myself, just thought I'd try and help out.

[Ramsey]

Thank you for the feedback, those were my impressions as well. White Mage gets no bonus for crit, so determination seems like the safe bet.

[Sodamachine]

Our group is gearing up our WHM with Determination, for overall more increased healing, to help with the AoE Healing, which is his job in our group.
But since this is about Materia, I say try to go with as much MIND the gear can handle, and fill out the rest with Determination.

For me, being the Scholar in my group, will go with Crit, to get those really crazy shields up on the tank.

[Ramsey]

Our group is gearing up our WHM with Determination, for overall more increased healing, to help with the AoE Healing, which is his job in our group.
But since this is about Materia, I say try to go with as much MIND the gear can handle, and fill out the rest with Determination.

For me, being the Scholar in my group, will go with Crit, to get those really crazy shields up on the tank.

All healing gear has natural mind on it, thus an HQ piece of healing gear can never be slotted with mind. The raw value of a stat on a piece of HQ gear represents the cap for that stat on the piece of gear. This is almost always true with physical stats (MND,DEX,INT) and generally true with secondary stats (Det,Crit,Acc)

(Note: This is only true for combat gear, the opposite is true for Crafting & Gathering gear, the more of a stat something has, the more it can take.)

Alkalurops has natural MND,PIE,VIT and Spell Speed.