Stop being so selfish.

[Kat_Manx]

Well I'd definitely pass if my gear was better.. I thought people were mad about Greeding items for like, your secondary job you play all the time but just don't currently happen to be on. ._.

[Eravel]

A limit on the amount of times you can 'need' would solve most problems. Did SE ever give a reason for not implementing this?

[Rivienne]

If you need something, whatever, go need it. I'm not telling people to not need on anything, but just have some damn consideration.

But are you asking? I am not saying I disagree about being considerate. But unless you tell me you need something, I probably only know if I do/don't. At that point it is up to communication. So don't assume the other person is being selfish, if you didn't actually communicate with them up front "hey, I am hoping to get some better gear here". If you don't do that, you are just setting yourself up for frustration.

Personally I have never come across someone who refused to pass when asked by someone who needed the gear more. Most people are really very nice about it all.

[Xceriis]

I don't think anyone (with sense) would complain about that.

If you're rolling "need" on something you actually have a use for, go for it.
If you're rolling "need" because you want to NPC it for pocket change, or turn it in for seals, you're kinda just being a dick.

On seals: Not really being a dick per say. The game mechanic it self seems to have a loophole - you turn in gear for seals. Perhaps communication between the neediness should suffice? Or running the dungeon 4,000 times.

[Belandomolando]

I see the OP's point very clearly.

I've tried to run Cutter's Cry a few times to collect the jewelry (it's the best you can get pretty much easily until you get the Tomes) and I queue as a Healer/Scholar because I know it's more desired, I'm good at it, and I like to heal. However, my FC is loaded with healers and we need good DPS. When I first got there there was a BLM (and I wasn't even 50 yet mind you) in his BLM gear and I checked out his gear, he was well geared and with better items. I asked if if I could win the Earrings and Choker if they dropped, the other DPS and tank said, sure... the BLM was silent.

WELL the choker dropped, who needed on it? But had a Blue Choker? If only I coulda blacklisted him, I did let him die a few times though *chuckles*.

[AridElf]

I was rolling archer yesterday and there was another archer too. Right at the start he says "Dibs on all the archer loot", he didn't seem too happy when I replied with "I'll Need on what I need, if you don't like it run the dungeon with friends who don't need archer based gear."

I agree to an extent, Need is there for if you need something, but at the end of the day it's down to RNG who gets the loot and you can always just re-run the dungeon until you get what you want.

[Kathryn]

Sadly by the looks of most of these responses Common Courtesy is lost with our new world, sadly this whole selfish "It's me before my team" seem's to be becoming a trend.

[mermade]

Unrealistic expectations. Everyone plays the game for different reasons, and has different agenda's within all of their characters classes. I worry about what I can control within the environment we were given. I don't get angry when I run a dungeon 10 times and out of that 10 times only one time does the DoM item I am looking for drop. Nor do I get angry when its typical that there just so happens to be 3 DoM's in the group who need it. It is the luck of the draw. It's no one's place to tell the other what they can and can't need. If the game deems the class is good to need, then it is up to that class whether or not they want to need.

I am currently leveling my main DoM class, and my crafting/gathering classes. Soon I will be working on my Scholar, and I will need items. I will run into people who will get angry at me for needing on items that will come in handy for me in the future. Yes I will think of myself first, and then think of others. Just because a person is considering their situation first does not mean that they are being selfish. We play this game for ourselves and put just as much effort into the dungeon as everyone. It is about a roll. Just as much as it is random as to what pops up in the coffer.

Had a WHM abandon Aurum Vale yesterday after the 2nd mini boss because he was pissed that I needed and rolled higher an Aetherial Mage hat for my future SCH. In his eyes I didn't need it because I have 4 of my BLM set items. Ignoring the fact that we are playing a game where one character can be every single class. You can't please everyone. Just try to have a good time and be positive. There are many factors to gain from the experience of running a dungeon. If me not getting the loot item I need (one aspect of many) really effects the entire dungeon/gaming experience, then I am playing the wrong game.

[Xceriis]

Sadly by the looks of most of these responses Common Courtesy is lost with our new world, sadly this whole selfish "It's me before my team" seem's to be becoming a trend.

It's, especially with PUG system mechanics and other anti-social structures. Not only that, but they mirror into real life with cell phones and anonymity online. Life becomes a temporary service best customized to complain until you get what you want, you can pick and choose between what interests you and doesn't. In the end, games are designed to cater to that greed thing, which in turn satisfies the greed of a company. So it's only inevitable that such habits emerge.

[Crica]

i dont understand why mmo devs even bother to let random groups of ppl lot on items anymore

all everyone does while in a group of RANDOM STRANGERS WHOM DID NOT AGREE ON ANY LOOT RULES THAT THE OP OF THIS THREAD WANTS TO USE BEFORE THEY JOINED THE GROUP is argue about whom should or should not lot

(even when its clear that the GAME MECHANICS themselves are not set up for the OP OF THIS THREAD to have any say in what individual players may roll need on or not WHILE IN A RANDOM DUTY FINDER GROUP)

mmo devs need to just give out personal loot to players when they are in groups of random players and leave the lotting on loot to the pre-made groups

imo, if the GAME does NOT give YOU the ability to control what I roll need on or not, then sorry, YOU dont get ANY SAY in what i roll need on or not

just as i dont expect to have any say in what you roll need on or not when the game does not give me the ability to control what you roll need on or not