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  1. #221
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    Rios-Drakoon's Avatar
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    Rios Drakoon
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 50
    guys correct me, my english i not the best and i never got it at School, but when i read this again:

    y: some were asking isn't warrior weaker/harder than paladin?
    y: in development environment devs are really strong with marauder
    y: so I think you'l find them out soon
    y: they are really strong
    y: for those that really want to show off, i recommend warrior
    Doesnt that mean, we will see a strong Warrior soon? so maybee we get a Buff?
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  2. #222
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    hola's Avatar
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    Hola Roxanne
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    Aegis
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lhun View Post
    Endgame bloodbath should only be used with vengeance, in my opinion.
    so bloodbath can heal you for extra 10hp everything the boss hit you?

    GTFO...
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  3. #223
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    Relic Rysec
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Conna View Post
    You missed 3 things the paladin took the main add the warriors popped convalescense and the warriors health dipped lower quicker so the only healer alive was already mid cast on the warrior.
    Yeah agreed PLD was main tanking and PLD's are preferred currently. Again not saying warriors don't need love, because they DO! But trying to show it is still being done obviously not as easy, but people saying no possible way please take a look.
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  4. #224
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    Hundred's Avatar
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    Delcas Seven
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 81
    Question. Does Defiance healing % benefit only affect Cure magic or his self heals?
    If I heard right Covalescence does not affect his self heals.

    If I get it right, Paladin is stronger because Shield oath takes five 1000 dmg hits for 800 each, mitigating 1000 damage excusing other cooldowns
    Meaning to be "on par" Marauder has to be able also mitigate and/or heal 1000 damage.
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    Last edited by Hundred; 09-24-2013 at 06:34 AM.

  5. #225
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    Bayman's Avatar
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    Bayman Man
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanther View Post
    They use the same gear...
    Um, Ax and my myth is very different. But thanks for playin'
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  6. #226
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Question. Does Defiance healing % benefit only affect Cure magic or his self heals?
    If I heard right Covalescence does not affect his self heals.

    Defiance:

    Increases maximum HP by 25%, while lowering damage dealt by 25% and increasing enmity.
    Effect ends upon reuse.
    Using certain actions while under the effect of Defiance will grant Wrath. Each unit of Wrath increases critical hit rate by 2% and and HP recovery via curing magic by 3%. When five units are stacked, you will become Infuriated. All Wrath is lost when Defiance ends.
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  7. #227
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    Dhex's Avatar
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Heavy Allagan Armor
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    UNTRADABLE UNIQUE
    Defense
    158
    Magic Defense
    158
    Strength +29
    Vitality +33
    Parry +24
    Accuracy +34


    Warrior's Cuirass
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    UNTRADABLE UNIQUE
    Defense
    158
    Magic Defense
    158
    Strength +29
    Vitality +33
    Parry +34
    Accuracy +24


    Valor Surcoat
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    UNTRADABLE UNIQUE
    Defense
    158
    Magic Defense
    158
    Strength +29
    Vitality +33
    Parry +34
    Determination +17


    Quote Originally Posted by Bayman View Post
    Um, Ax and my myth is very different. But thanks for playin'
    Uh huh.
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  8. #228
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    Sephirah's Avatar
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    Nim Loki
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    He's telling us, politely: L2P Noobs, we pwnz U! :P

    I would generally agree with him based on my read, and only read, of the complaints, the class, and the posts by those NOT having problems. I note that the people with problems and the ones without seem to be looking at the class and its meta in near opposite ways.

    The folks with issues are trying to recreate a mitigation tank on a class with... no defensive ability...
    The folks without trouble are trying to recreate the meta that eventually evolved for the City of Heroes "Brute" class...


    The Brute was a class with the threat gen abilities of the 'tanker', but the armor abilities of a trash mob... By the end of City of Hero's life-cycle, it was the go-to tank option in the places I frequented. But for the first few years, it was considered a useless class. The devs there never changed it - somebody who figured it out just finally got his memo listened to by the other players. The Brute was the proto-WoW DK, and proto-WoW Monk. It stayed up despite taking hits that should have killed it, by using very active play of a series of gimmicks and by being played by players who glued their eyes open so they didn't ever blink and wipe... You played like a madman, insane, and you won. One second of caution, and you faceplanted.


    Here's Yoshi's fuller quote:

    y; Earlier today, I was told by a player that Warriors are weaker than Paladins
    y; They are harder to play
    f; It’s more technical
    y; You need to bring in a lot of the the additional (skills?) to get it fully out
    y; But really, in development team, warrior are really strong, and it’s more stable
    y; So right now it looks like Paladins can hold the enmity and tank, however
    y; honestly Warriors are really strong.
    y; Players haven’t researched enough so I would like players who are up for a challenge to stand up and play.
    y; We the development team really recommend Warriors
    http://gamerescape.com/2013/09/20/tg...h-translation/
    Thank you ^_^
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  9. #229
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    Giantbane's Avatar
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Thank you ^_^
    I believe most people are already aware about that part of the interview and it's why they're worried.

    The point the concerned WARs here are trying to make is: what exactly is he expecting us to research? It's not like there's this huge list of abilities for people to try out. Do you seriously think there's this magic combination of abilities that's going to close the gap between the two classes? Because beyond the discrepancy created by Shield Oath, Rage of Halone and wearing a shield, there's all the defensive cooldowns that WAR doesn't appear to have much answer for either and I don't see where some magic bullet is going to come from that can make up for all that.

    Really, the only cross class ability I see that doesn't get much mention is Haymaker. It's a relatively weak ability on the GCD that's only usable after a dodge that can apply Slow. Are there a lot of difficult bosses that can be slowed? Does Slow not have DR or something?
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  10. #230
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    Hola Roxanne
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    Aegis
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Thank you ^_^
    translate

    im very very happy to hear that yoshida is not gonna buff warrior.
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