[GUIDE] Warrior: Skill Intensive Tanking

[Bobrangi]

Can I just ask a question / make a comment on the macros here. i.e;

/ac "Inner Beast" <t>
/ac "Heavy Swing" <t>
/ac "Tomahawk" <t>

with the GCD being 2.5s (skill speed aside) would you not need to put a /wait 2.5 in between each action?

One of my current macros looks like this;

/ac "Skull Sunder" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Butcher's Block" <t>

I tried editing this to compensate for skill speed but when i changed it to /wait 2.46 it wouldn't trigger Butcher's Block;which indicates the wait action is required. I'm at work at the moment so can't test your macros out but I'm sure i had previously tried this without success.

My defensive macro looks like this;

/ac "Thrill of battle" <me>
/wait 1.0
/ac "Foresight" <me>
/wait 1.0
/ac "Convalescence" <me>

and without the waits in between I know it doesn't trigger all 3 consecutively. With this particular macro if i'm lagging, or am moving around too much at the time it doesn't trigger the whole macro either.

[James1213]

While a lot of your guide has some useful stuff for when I decide to finish leveling mrd I thought I would point out that using provoke at the start of a fight is a really bad thing to do since it only generates one threat because here is how the ability works. It matches your threat to the top person+1. So using it at the start of a fight just nets you one threat someone buffing themselves will cause the mob to chase them and in turn have you chase the mob around. The only times I can see provoke pulling being useful is during ak when you are pulling the sucubuses solo or getting a giant from a cross the way instead of waiting for it to finish its patrol.

[Exrage]

I would point out that using provoke at the start of a fight is a really bad thing to do since it only generates one threat because here is how the ability works.

This is absolutely correct and thank you for catching it, originally I had "Tomahawk/Provoke" as the first move used but the first part I deleted for whatever stupid reason.

[Exrage]

would you not need to put a /wait 2.5 in between each action?

No, if an ability is unavailable (on CD or GCD) when you click the macro button it will skip to the next line of code.

it wouldn't trigger Butcher's Block;

Look at the "Macro logic" post in the guide, what your macro is saying it will do is "If "Skull Sunder" is available use it, if not "wait 2.5 seconds", (error here) if "Butcher's Block" is available use it. The problem is that you can cast them both simultaneously despite wanting to cast them in an order. The macro you want to right requires an action order, which I will go over in the post after my next.

and without the waits in between I know it doesn't trigger all 3 consecutively.

You're right it won't, a macro will only trigger one ability each time it's pressed, and the logic dictates it will trigger whichever ability is first unless it's unavailable.

[Exrage]

Okay, so since Bobrangi touched on queuing multiple actions together (Skull Sunder and Butcher's Block) I figured I would go into why I didn't include it in a guide: 1 button macros ruin any sort of challenge. If you want to make them, I'll give you the tools but won't post them here.

Action Queuing: /aq[on] and /aq[off]
This triggers a queue per line that, even if the first ability in the macro logic is available it WILL NOT TRIGGER until the queue is turned off and turned back on again.

Equipping Actions To Your Bar: /eaction[slot] [actionname]
Another macro ability for the lazy, add it to your macro after your action and equip another macro into same button you just pushed, meaning you can keep tapping 1 and execute any combination you wish without fail.

There you have it, the secret to the laziest tank macro revealed. Now all it needs is one of you schmucks to post it for everyone to copy and paste, but not from my guide.

[Cheeto]

Action Queuing: /aq[on] and /aq[off]
This triggers a queue per line that, even if the first ability in the macro logic is available it WILL NOT TRIGGER until the queue is turned off and turned back on again.

Is this legit? I can't find anything about it anywhere else, and it doesn't appear to work in game exactly as you have described. As in I get the error "/aq[on] is not a valid command.".

Edit: I've since found the entry in the macro documentation, but it still doesn't seem to do anything for me: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...e/macro01.html
Do you have a brief working example I could try?

[Judge_Xero]

Is this legit? I can't find anything about it anywhere else, and it doesn't appear to work in game exactly as you have described. As in I get the error "/aq[on] is not a valid command.".

Edit: I've since found the entry in the macro documentation, but it still doesn't seem to do anything for me: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...e/macro01.html
Do you have a brief working example I could try?

Would like to see this too. I can't even seem to find an updated Macro list. That list is from Version 1 and I'm not sure most that stuff is the same.

[Exrage]

Edit: I've since found the entry in the macro documentation, but it still doesn't seem to do anything for me: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...e/macro01.html
Do you have a brief working example I could try?

Lol, was just about to link the data but remember that it's 1.0. Action queuing was alive and working in beta but as mentioned at the start of the guide I don't use it as I believe it takes a lot out of what it means to play a warrior as compared to the "3-button-dance" paladin. I'll see if I can make a crafting macro and if it was taken out I'll amend my post and give kudos to the FFXIV devs who realized it needed to stay in FFXII and out of the MMO setting.

[PiedPiper]

Equipping Actions To Your Bar: /eaction[slot] [actionname]
Another macro ability for the lazy, add it to your macro after your action and equip another macro into same button you just pushed, meaning you can keep tapping 1 and execute any combination you wish without fail.

Is the equip action to slot possible on ps3? I'm all for not being lazy.. but the ability to save space on my main cross bar by using this would be pretty awesome.

Note: I'm pld main, so... its not like there is much challenge to the rotation anyway lol.

[Marxam]

Very informative thread and good stuff for new warriors and veterans alike. Btw do you have any tag macros?

/micon
/mk target
/ac "Tomahawk" <t>

something along those lines. I can't seem to get it to tag properly. It always prompts the "Mark" window and I have to manually select a target icon however when I use repose on my cnj I use the exact same macro and it instantly tags it and sleeps it. Am I doing something wrong? also I'm on PS3 so stuff like this is a God-send and I only just recently discovered the use of macros when I wrote a few for my crafting classes. Thanks