This isnt FFXI!

[Lucroarna]

SE STOP INCORPORATING YOUR OTHER LICENSED PROPERTIES INTO MY PERSONAL VIDEO GAME! STOP IT NOW! STOP!!!111 I HATE EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR FFXIV!!11 AAARRRGGGHHHH!111

[faris]

Regarding the Vana'diel / Hydaelyn comparison, I don't actually think there's any sense in that. Vana'diel is a world created (accidentally) by a grieving goddess as she split a crystal, a "mistake world" as it were, which wasn't as amazing as what it was formed of; but still pretty cool. Vana'diel is connected to Al'taieu / Dynamis / Valhalla / the astral plane and Abyssea via links to other worlds, which Hydaelyn isn't. These links wouldn't just disappear. Furthermore, The 5 races argument's kinda invalid considering Hydaelyn doesn't have Zilart or Kuluu - and the devs have gave out lore about these races which conflict with XI's lore - proving that they're merely similar to XI's races because XI's races were really popular.

Also, none of the Terrestrial Avatars which are charged with keeping Vana'diel are featured in Hydaelyn - aside from Carbuncle. Considering Carbuncle's merely an mathematical arrangement of Aether to a given form in XIV; it's certainly not the omnipotent being Carbuncle is in FFXI. Regarding the thread's original point, there's nothing at all wrong with XI references. There's enough reference to other games within the series (Lightning for one, and did anyone see the Warrior of Light armor in the last live producer letter? I'm crossing my fingers based on pure fangirlism that he's in a FATE at some point.) and XI shouldn't be excluded from that. Especially given it was the start of SE's MMOs based on the FF series, and indeed, very successful.

tl;dr- dumb GD is dumb

[Felis]

Here's a thought if Vanadiel and Eorzea are in fact one worlds.... maybe Eorzea is the same world after the Celestial Avatars have awoken? It would explain Bahamut's change from sentient to being rather feral minded like any other dragon.

Eorzea ist just a continent. The world is Hydaelyn.

Mainly the thing that probably lends itself to most people thinking that it even could be the same world is that it essentially has the exact same similar5 primary sentient races, and some of the same beastmen like goblins and such. Still, there are a lot of similarities, maybe they are different planets within the same solar system perhaps?

I fixed it a bit
The only link between both worlds is SE.

[Salem_Rain]

Sorry the first car was a Benz the first affordable car due to the assembly line was the model T hell id love to have a model t or a 67 belair. But whatever the game is enjoyable

Fun fact: World of Warcraft was the first commercially successful mass produced MMO, much like the Model-T Ford. Fun fact: World of Warcraft was not, however, the first MMORPG - so my comparison (which had nothing to do with the first car) stands correct.

If you're going to put on the Pedantic Hat™, be sure that the bill is facing forward.

Anyway - I'm glad that this game is far more refreshing than the overdiscussed WoW, with new things to offer. I'm having a great time in Eorzea and look forward to seeing player housing and vanity armor (which WoW also doesn't have ')

[Briegg]

Everyone knows WoW is just an everquest clone.

[Rannie]

Fun fact: World of Warcraft was the first commercially successful mass produced MMO, much like the Model-T Ford. Fun fact: World of Warcraft was not, however, the first MMORPG - so my comparison (which had nothing to do with the first car) stands correct.

If you're going to put on the Pedantic Hat™, be sure that the bill is facing forward.

Anyway - I'm glad that this game is far more refreshing than the overdiscussed WoW, with new things to offer. I'm having a great time in Eorzea and look forward to seeing player housing and vanity armor (which WoW also doesn't have ')

Then please use the correct wording because again you said first car not first massively assembled car its bad enough people think this when the information is incorrect as to oppose of correct information.

Also I know it wasn't the first MMO I've been playing MMOMs since I was 16-17 years old and it was called Nexus The Kingdom of Wind Which came out before WoW and is one of the first MMOs ever

[Canopia]

Would be nice however Vana'diel is a flat world unlike Hydaelyn which is a round world.

To that I say, "ERAU QSSI DLRO WEHT"

[KingBerry]

This isnt WoW but they put WoW in this game anyways so the whole "This isnt XI" talk is irrelevant.

[Rannie]

To that I say, "ERAU QSSI DLRO WEHT"

to that I reply with,

"?gnipyt sdrawkcab eht htiw s'tahW"

[Gramul]

SE STOP INCORPORATING YOUR OTHER LICENSED PROPERTIES INTO MY PERSONAL VIDEO GAME! STOP IT NOW! STOP!!!111 I HATE EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR FFXIV!!11 AAARRRGGGHHHH!111

Well, there is something to be said for self contained continuity.