Are we really gearchecking speedruns for storymode dungeons now?

[Krisan]

You could practically run Castrum naked, damn dungeon is easy as all hell.. It's so easy it's mind-numbing, in fact. Nothing in it has particularly high defense, and the beefiest trash is all fodder to the damned cannons anyway.. Honestly if people are going to gearcheck me in Castrum, I'll gladly leave.. I don't want to play with anyone THAT uptight anyway.. There are places where it makes sense to gear check, this is not one of them.

[Zanther]

Unless the Japanese community has changed, I've never had it happen in 8 years of FFXI if you at least make an attempt to speak Japanese or use the Auto-Translate.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/JP_Button

Also, as you're basically lying, anyone that has ever frequented here will tell you of the horror stories of the japanese players that sparked a number of entertaining threads.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum.php

I can tell you that I've been kicked from xp groups, and threatened with reports a number of times by Japanese players simply for beating them to NM's and such.

[CyrilLucifer]

Also, as you're basically lying, anyone that has ever frequented here will tell you of the horror stories of the japanese players that sparked a number of entertaining threads.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum.php

I can tell you that I've been kicked from xp groups, and threatened with reports a number of times by Japanese players simply for beating them to NM's and such.

I most certainly am not lying. I was in a Japanese HNM LS for three years.

Nor have I really experience the latter myself, not that I doubt it has happened.

[Zanther]

Oh look, heres an example. Only took 2 minutes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...405_040118.jpg

[Krisan]

Dunno why you are stuck on this. It happened, yeah, but there were also lots of cases where it didn't happen. I had plenty of great JP parties in XI, and then I had a ton of times where they slammed a door in my face when all I needed was a little help with something. People are different, some of them are jerks, go figure?

[Yshnal]

Do you also tell your boss to pay you less so you have to work harder and longer for the same reward? Or do you want to make as much money as you can in as little time possible?

I'm just quoting this as it illustrates the mentality of some people. This is a game, not a job. As such, we're here to have fun, not to make money (or obtain gear). Gear is a mean to an end, not the end itself. We get better gear while we have fun beating some content so that we can run (often artificially) "harder" content to have, again, fun beating it. Of course, getting some new shinnies can be exciting (just for the visual part of it, as stats are something artificial, specially here with level sync), but it's just a minor part.

Back to the main topic, I'm always amazed by the logic of some of these gearcheck people, even if they're free to do whatever they want, of course. Really, when someone starts asking that the minimum gear requirement is the same gear that you would get after running/farming said dungeon or even superior, ask yourselves this: why would a good player with said gear run a dungeon that will give him nothing of value instead of, I don't know, try Coil? And no, gear for other classes doesn't count, as he would be able to get it from Coil, anyway, while doing something that requires more skill than just being a mindless zombie.

[DanteMog]

Playing efficiently, playing well, and playing to the best of my ability is fun to me, as well as to a lot of people in this game. Why is that concept lost on so many people here?

For me the fun is completing the dungeon completely, the gear and extra are a bonus, once completed i move on, i do not care about efficiency or speed, i do not like repetition, i'll do a dungeon 5 times then i'm done finished no more, to rinse and repeat stuff as some challenge blah blah is frustrating and tedious to me.

Not everyone cares about how great they are or how good they can strive to be, for me its just enjoy the sights and move on.

[FuriousLobster]

Unbelievable. I hope these types leave.

[BlueMage]

If people are forming a premade for speedruns and only want to invite the best geared people to ensure the fastest runs, I don't see any problem. Don't like it? Don't join.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

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Also skippable mobs/content NEEDS to be removed, because people will continue to bicker and complain with eachother when someone accidentally aggros some mobs that could have been avoided, making the dungeon last 45 seconds longer because they have to actually fight something.

Yesterday, I mentioned the devs post on this subject and finally found it in Lodestone Update notes, re: it was not intended for ppl to skip mobs in dungeons. Here is a snippet of it and the link to the page:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...ebe450663fde03

The following adjustments and countermeasures have been implemented:

-Changes have been made to the behavior and mechanics of the enemies found within the “The Wanderer’s Palace” and “Amdapor Keep” dungeons to counteract instances of players running through the dungeon without engaging enemies on the way to bosses. As advancing through dungeons without defeating enemies is not an intended strategy, we plan to continue making further changes in the future to discourage this type of behavior.