WARRIOR Tips & Tricks

[Tassos]

Tassos ticks do generate enmity. All dmg generates enmity. Ask a SMN that throws all his dots at a boss if he generates enmity or not.

Did you read what I just wrote?

I never said that over-time abilities didn't generate enmity. I pointed out that they generate all the enmity that would be generated over the duration all at the beginning. Each tick does no change the enmity at the time of the tick.

On a related note, is there a proper term for tick? It sounds weird to me.

[javid]

Did you read what I just wrote?

I never said that over-time abilities didn't generate enmity. I pointed out that they generate all the enmity that would be generated over the duration all at the beginning. Each tick does no change the enmity at the time of the tick.

On a related note, is there a proper term for tick? It sounds weird to me.

I don't think tick dmg enmity is accounted for all at the execution of the attack. Then again maybe you're using a parser and can see the calculation are done all before actual dmg happens over time. If what you suggest is true (stacking two Fracture's back to back before the timer runs out for the FIRST one would generate 60 seconds worth of Fracture enmity UNDER 60 sec?!)

[Tassos]

I don't think tick dmg enmity is accounted for all at the execution of the attack. Then again maybe you're using a parser and can see the calculation are done all before actual dmg happens over time. If what you suggest is true (stacking two Fracture's back to back before the timer runs out for the FIRST one would generate 60 seconds worth of Fracture enmity UNDER 60 sec?!)

I am not using a parser. I've hunted for the link but failed to find it. It was stated by the dev team that any over time skills generate all enmity at the time of cast and not over the duration. I feel bad that I can't find the statement anywhere. Maybe I misread it in part as they were having a conversation on healing specifically. So maybe it only applies to heals over time. I'll keep hunting.

[javid]

I am not using a parser. I've hunted for the link but failed to find it. It was stated by the dev team that any over time skills generate all enmity at the time of cast and not over the duration. I feel bad that I can't find the statement anywhere. Maybe I misread it in part as they were having a conversation on healing specifically. So maybe it only applies to heals over time. I'll keep hunting.

hey find that link!!! That would be a great find for us all DPS healer and Tank alike

[Viridiana]

I am not using a parser. I've hunted for the link but failed to find it. It was stated by the dev team that any over time skills generate all enmity at the time of cast and not over the duration. I feel bad that I can't find the statement anywhere. Maybe I misread it in part as they were having a conversation on healing specifically. So maybe it only applies to heals over time. I'll keep hunting.

Still not accurate, though, as any healer who's had regen last from one pull to the next can tell you.

[PessimiStick]

I am not using a parser. I've hunted for the link but failed to find it. It was stated by the dev team that any over time skills generate all enmity at the time of cast and not over the duration. I feel bad that I can't find the statement anywhere. Maybe I misread it in part as they were having a conversation on healing specifically. So maybe it only applies to heals over time. I'll keep hunting.

Doesn't matter if you can find the post or not, it's categorically false. The game does not behave that way, no matter what a Dev may or may not have said. Ticks generate aggro when they happen, for both damage and heals. Anything that claims otherwise is incorrect.

[Sakasa]

Doesn't matter if you can find the post or not, it's categorically false. The game does not behave that way, no matter what a Dev may or may not have said. Ticks generate aggro when they happen, for both damage and heals. Anything that claims otherwise is incorrect.

I thought the upfront was a bug...Because Regen would do both up front and tick (every tick was the upfront agro again it seemed) because all ticks have a random chance to critical and if you total aggro up front alone that means it ignores the numbers it puts out which doesnt make for a logical design as it would ignore the enmity mechanics of the entire game. For instance a hate reset would ignore ticks there for making the mob check new enmity scores added after the fact which would still be the tank as it has highest passive hate generation. And I am sure regen doesnt dump huge enmity as it once did before.

[Viridiana]

Did you read what I just wrote?

I never said that over-time abilities didn't generate enmity. I pointed out that they generate all the enmity that would be generated over the duration all at the beginning. Each tick does no change the enmity at the time of the tick.

On a related note, is there a proper term for tick? It sounds weird to me.

That's not accurate at all. I can't count the number of times that I've tab-target DOT'd only to *several tics later* pull aggro from the tank. Or hit Windbiter too early on a pull and had the mob come for me *only after the first tic*.

[Terabyt3]

That's not accurate at all. I can't count the number of times that I've tab-target DOT'd only to *several tics later* pull aggro from the tank. Or hit Windbiter too early on a pull and had the mob come for me *only after the first tic*.

Indeed. I've seen this with a HQ melded 2* gear smn slapping too many dots on and watching his enmity creep up