WARRIOR Tips & Tricks

[Terabyt3]

Here is a tip: your first hit should be Fracture.

Absolutely and positively Wrong!

NEVER use Fracture as an opening move to gain hate. It has NO Base enmity multiplier.

Set a few things straight here. Defiance Doubles the enmity of all actions so x2.

Fracture has no base multipler so is only x2 (From Defiance)


If you Tomahawk first (Base x2 increasing to x4 with Defiance) it is twice as effective almost as fracture.
THEN Overpower. Again it has x2 multiplier increased to x4 with defiance.

One initial hate combo on the main mob HS(x2) > SS (x4) > BB(x8!!!) with defiance.

And if its a group of mobs WITHOUT sleep ANOTHER Overpower.

ONLY THEN POP FRACTURE

The Dot and the fact there is no base multiplier on Storms eye comb will help maintain hate while you get that up and return to your hate combo. it means fracture and maim will run out at the same time ish and allow you to return to that for constant upkeep.


Abilities for CD work well in pairs. Stagger which CD's you are popping. Don't over defend yourself as a WAR.

I use three Macros as a CD rotation and 2 OH S**T macros.

First off is:
/micon "Foresight"
/ac "Foresight" <me>
/wait 0.5
/ac "Featherfoot" <me>

/micon "Bloodbath"
/ac "Bloodbath" <me>
/wait 0.5
/ac "Berserk" <me>

/micon "Convalesence"
/ac "Convalesence" <me>
/wait 0.5
/ac "Vengeance" <me>

roate through these 3 buffs to have active damage mitigation on you around 30-40% of the fight.

The 2 panic buttons are as follows:

/micon "Infuriate"
/ac "Internal Releasae" <me>
/wait 0.7
/ac "Inner Beast" <t>
/wait 0.7
/ac "Infuriate" <me>

This gives you a minimum 35% chance to crit inner beast and immediately get 5 wrath back to help healing.

/micon "Thrill of Battle"
/ac "Thril of Battle" <me>
/wait 0.5
/ac "Second Wind" <me>

Use this pre empting a big hit OR straight after if you need a buffer for casting time from healers. ToB only lasts 10secs if you arent getting hit for that 1k+ damage in that 10 seconds your thrill of battle use was pointless.

All of the above abilities share the same CD's timers further making them mesh with each other!

[javid]

[QUOTE=Terabyt3;1351565][QUOTE=javid;1305933]Here is a tip: your first hit should be Fracture.

Absolutely and positively Wrong!

NEVER use Fracture as an opening move to gain hate. It has NO Base enmity multiplier.

Thanks for the flame ....but re read please.... I NEVER say Fracture to GAIN HATE.... i say Fracture to Optimize DMG dealt during a fight that will likely NOT last 30 sec. So if you want to do the most dmg with every 2.5 sec of GCD at stake, you have to sneak in Fracture EARLY (if at all). Potency of 100 on impact then 20 over 30 sec (20 dmg [if not critical] / tick [a tick is 3 seconds]).So the move is worth in full effect 200+ dmg (if not critical ticks).

Against Lv50 trash mob fighting this move may NOT prove cost effective b/c the fight MAY LAST TOO SHORT. However lower levels this move is a must to optimize your overal dmg since that 200+ dmg is a big deal at level 28+

[Terabyt3]

Thanks for the flame ....but re read please.... I NEVER say Fracture to GAIN HATE....

I didn't mean to flame bud. Don't take offence to what was supposed to be advice.

Sorry if that's the case but the only time you should be optimizing for damage from the start is soloing. And then you should probably be as a MRD instead of WAR for greater cross class skills (Raging Strikes).

DPS is not WAR's job in a party.

Leave the DPS to the those jobs though. you are not there for that . you're there to gain initial hate and keep it. AS WAR Fracture is a buff to allow you to get off a maim combo while still increasing emnity from ticks.

Leave DD to the DD's

It's worth noting that while upkeeping Maim every second roation IF your hate is suffictient then use storms path instead of eye. Eye will help you increase enmity but if you're already steps ahead in the enmity ranks the healing although minimal is the better option. Only if the mob also has self heals should Eye be used everytime.

[Tassos]

Leave the DPS to the those jobs though. you are not there for that . you're there to gain initial hate and keep it. AS WAR Fracture is a buff to allow you to get off a maim combo while still increasing emnity from ticks.

Ticks generate no enmity. All over time skills are frontloaded for enmity generation, meaning all hate is generated at the time of application.

Also IMHO, as a Warrior my ability to tank is directly related to my dps.

[javid]

DPS is not WAR's job in a party.
...............

Leave DD to the DD's

I disagree with leaving DD for the dedicated DPS. Warrior is not designed like Paladin. We do Hit hard and a great Warrior can keep within 80%+ of a great DPS. Again think of a Speed run through Wanderer's Palace. IF you spend the whole time JUST tanking stuff (reallly only King Tonberry demands full tanking attention) you'll slow the run down. I've manage to do a 26 min run through the dungeon and that AFTER patch. And since there is a little more room for boasting I've also killed King Tonberry start to finish with a bard a white and me Warrior. Bard didn't kite anything he just straight zerk the HOT TWINKIE out of everything.

Paladin Party even with SWord's Oath won't finish a speed run as fast as a Warrior (if all stat's & skill are comparable ofcourse :P)

[Kaalan]

I disagree with leaving DD for the dedicated DPS. Warrior is not designed like Paladin. We do Hit hard and a great Warrior can keep within 80%+ of a great DPS. Again think of a Speed run through Wanderer's Palace. IF you spend the whole time JUST tanking stuff (reallly only King Tonberry demands full tanking attention) you'll slow the run down. I've manage to do a 26 min run through the dungeon and that AFTER patch. And since there is a little more room for boasting I've also killed King Tonberry start to finish with a bard a white and me Warrior. Bard didn't kite anything he just straight zerk the HOT TWINKIE out of everything.

Paladin Party even with SWord's Oath won't finish a speed run as fast as a Warrior (if all stat's & skill are comparable ofcourse :P)

That's the thing. You're focused on content that is so easy that you could give a fresh lvl 50 WAR to a monkey and he could still clear it. No problem in that, but then for the love of god, stop advertising this everywhere as the "Holy WAR Bible". Because this is basically full of horrible advice.
YES WAR need some DPS. NO WAR shouldn't go full DPS, this is retarded. We need a balance of both, and, again, puting those 30 point into VIT instead of STR gives you overall MUCH more stats and MUCH more OFFENSIVE stats especially.
It's freaking math, you can't say no to that as long as you're able to read for christ's sake.

EDIT : Oh God.
You actually have 4358 HP. Nuff said. You have absolutely no idea of what end game is, uh ?

[javid]

That's the thing. You're focused on content that is so easy that you could give a fresh lvl 50 WAR to a monkey and he could still clear it. No problem in that, but then for the love of god, stop advertising this everywhere as the "Holy WAR Bible". Because this is basically full of horrible advice.
YES WAR need some DPS. NO WAR shouldn't go full DPS, this is retarded. We need a balance of both, and, again, puting those 30 point into VIT instead of STR gives you overall MUCH more stats and MUCH more OFFENSIVE stats especially.
It's freaking math, you can't say no to that as long as you're able to read for christ's sake.

EDIT : Oh God.
You actually have 4358 HP. Nuff said. You have absolutely no idea of what end game is, uh ?

please ignore this guy... He's just flaming ppl and ignoring all the stat's and number we've been placing on the forum to demonstrate functionality. We've heard your gripe the first time....Please add something else to the forum.

And check your facts....If I'm wearing all STR gear....don't you think my BASE (HP not defiance) will be expected to be low...?

[Terabyt3]

Stuff

Hey Kaalan. if you remember I had a post about parry rates etc. and DEX stacking a while back. We had a good discussion about HQ craft acc and such. Since then i got parry rate and dex stacking and tested out the 40/41/40 sequence for myself.

But the mitigation from parry rate and % blocked although is nices when you get up to 25%-25%~ for rate and ammoutn it is NOT to be relied upon as your main source of mitigation. The 30VIT works much much more to my advantage I've seen mainly because of Thrill of battle and the hp regen natural tick from a higher than normal HP pool.

Titan doesnt even worry me as a WAR with table flip etc when i pop thrill of battle for a boost up to 8.5k follwed by second wind Internal release, inner beast and infuriate to immediately get 5 stacks of wrath again.

Can't wait to break the 9000 so i can macro in "OVER 9000!"

[Kaalan]

Can't wait to break the 9000 so i can macro in "OVER 9000!"

Well yeah, HP is freaking vital to a WAR, completely ignoring the stat is a suicide and wont work past AK/CM/Garuda.
But up to a point, right now I don't think that going further than 7k7/7k8 under defiance and in a party is realy usefull. And if you're gearing and allocating your stat properly, this is actually allowing you to have a shit load of DPS stats such as STR, CRT, DET..

[javid]

Can't wait to break the 9000 so i can macro in "OVER 9000!"

I like to get to 9000!! Still though don't you think at SOME POINT the extra HP is excessive... just pretty to look at; doesn't really add to the fight. Though stoneskin and Regen facts are good things to note

lets compare the two outputs on a defiance 6.2k HP & a 9K HP


Regen ( a great great regen) gives 350 every tick for 21 seconds (3 sec/1 tick) . 7 ticks * 350 HP = 2450 HP

Now First that's a rarity to get that much out of regen. But if you did it would make since that having a greater pool of HP that's TAKING A HELL OF DMG SUPER FAST would better faciliate 2450 HP rather than have it wasted.


Now for stoneskin. 6.2k * 18%= 1116 Absorb of stoneskin
Now for stoneskin. 9.0k * 18%= 1620 Absorb of Stoneskin

The benefit of having 2.8k more HP according to SS is!!!!!!! 504 more absorb. That's a decent one extra BOSS attack.

So those two spells Regen and Stoneskin are not a make reason to strive for ultimate VIT; but neither is ALMOST one tier of Parry & 39 effective Attack Power.