SE Must Disable All Forms of Trade if They Want to Save the Economy

[Lasteran]

Though I disagree with the route SE has taken in dealing with bots, teleports, hackers, spammers, mules, and gil sellers (letting them run wild while they "collect data"), I understand it is what they've chosen to do...and if I am to continue playing FFXIV I have to deal with it.

However, there is something SE can do right now, today, to stop the RMT from bringing the whole system down around them. Disable all trade.

Turn off the Market Boards, disable direct trade, and disallow sending items via mogmail. Allow players to only buy and sell to NPC merchants until SE can figure out just what in God's name they are going to do about this epidemic.

I know this sounds drastic...but the problem is that bad. Drastic times; drastic measures.

Take away the gil sellers market and the gil sellers will leave, its that simple. Use the time to find their accounts and ban them.

[Ignnis]

That sounds fine as a temp thing to help weed out rmt and saving people their Gil but if your going to do that patch the Npcs so they buy for more than 1-3 gil x.x.

[JeniLinsky]

Yes, it's not that simple. If you disable trade, I have to level my crafting skills to make my own high item-level equipment. That's a huge investment either in time or in gil, as it requires a great heap of materials to level up. Given how little gil-creation there is in the game (1-time quests, guildleves, fates) that turns into forcing people to grind for mats, or grind for gil. If you're a casual player who only has an hour or less a day to accomplish everything you want to do in the game, you're essentially saying "Okay, for the next week, you're not going to get to be a White Mage, you have to be a Botanist."

The which, I do not want. Thank you very little.

[Fistlandious]

Yes, it's not that simple. That's a huge investment either in time or in gil, If you're a casual player who only has an hour or less a day to accomplish everything you want to do in the game, you're essentially saying "Okay, for the next week, you're not going to get to be a White Mage, you have to be a Botanist."

Exactly right, i am going threw this very thing atm, this combined with the unbelievable amount of gold spammers is litteraly driving me from the game. I would prefer to actually "play" the game and not just log-in for another "grinding session". I understand that some work is and should be needed to acomplish certain things and i don't want anything given to me. But what is needed to craft your own gear is really over the top, add in the annoyance of the spammers and this game is not really worth the time investment needed to acomplish anything and it certainly is not worth the money, period.

[Zer0]

Actually economy can be saved in easy ways:

1) Ban RMT Spammers
2) Ban teleport hackers
3) Ban Bots
4) Institute better policies for countering future bots/hackers/spammers
5) institute better gil generators like in-dungeon mobs drop more gil.

economy fixed. The biggest step is 1 through 3. They really really really really need to start getting their ass in gear and banning the people that are ruining the economy by cheating. It's really whats driving me to stop playing. Not the toxic players, that I can ignore. The bots though are so overdone it's stupid.


Go look at how wow handles it, you almost never see spammers or hackers.

[Haibel]

Go look at how wow handles it, you almost never see spammers or hackers.

Yet there is still RMT in wow. Not seeing it does mean they fixed it. it's just not speaking of the elephant in the room.

[frostmagemari]

Yet there is still RMT in wow. Not seeing it does mean they fixed it. it's just not speaking of the elephant in the room.

No matter what you do, a company will never be able to solve the RMT problem completely -and- keep your customers, the best that can really be done is to solve the problematic actions of the RMT employees; Such as the chat-dominating spam or the teleport hacks, ect.

For the most part, WoW has gotten it right on their anti-RMT actions.. they haven't stopped it completely, but they have curtailed the advertising and the exploits that the RMT community uses that the average player does not notice it's existence and/or is not effected by them; In the case they identify large amounts of gold being transferred, they investigate and take the time to see if it was really RMT instead of just applying the ban-hammer and and let CS sort it out (Ie. Did the person buy a level 90 epic sword from you for a million gold, or did you trade them some roast chicken).

Is Blizzard's system perfect? No.. but they've found a balance between policing the RMT and the quality of life for regular players. Square also needs to find this balance, and i hope they find it soon.

[Zakalwe]

Exactly right, i am going threw this very thing atm, this combined with the unbelievable amount of gold spammers is litteraly driving me from the game. I would prefer to actually "play" the game and not just log-in for another "grinding session". I understand that some work is and should be needed to acomplish certain things and i don't want anything given to me. But what is needed to craft your own gear is really over the top, add in the annoyance of the spammers and this game is not really worth the time investment needed to acomplish anything and it certainly is not worth the money, period.

Grinding session? Some days I feel like I'm logging in for nothing more than a botter/gil-seller reporting session.

I understand how important it is to report cheats but it disheartening to see the same ones out days or weeks after you reported them. And gil sellers now seem to be finding ways to bypass blacklists...

[frostmagemari]

Grinding session? Some days I feel like I'm logging in for nothing more than a botter/gil-seller reporting session.

I understand how important it is to report cheats but it disheartening to see the same ones out days or weeks after you reported them. And gil sellers now seem to be finding ways to bypass blacklists...

I don't know how SE has it's chat system designed, but apparently they can occasionally get a message through the blacklist by simply spamming the message constantly.