New Comer needs help in Tanking, and setup.

[jdkfrisco]

I have gotten to level 43 ok, and now some of the harder stuff is happening. I have not made it through most of the Dungeon stuff because I get backlash from other players when things are not going their way, and it does not make for a pleasant game experience for me as anew comer. I am about to just stop playing because I don't need the stress of other people telling me to leave. How can I become better at this? I have skills that I can't even use because I can't get to the point where they become active. SSSSOOOOO FRUSTRATED about to give up!!!!!!

[Darkrotor]

Hey I know tanking can be tough, I have been playing this since 1.0 but just recently started tanking with PLD. When I start having trouble what I usually do is go back and tank a few of the easy dungeons to get back into the rhythm or different pulls and things, also have you started doing guildhests? those are a good quick way to repeatedly practice tanking bosses and strange trash pulls.

[jdkfrisco]

Yeah, I have been keeping up on the guildhests. Have the first LVL40 one to do, It is I just don't know how to utilize what I have and if placement on the controller is bad. Cannot get my latest to Warrior Actions to come on. I get stress from people at work, I don't need it when playing a game. I can go back and do some of the earlier stuff, but I just don't understand some of the things I am suppose to do. How do get the targets to focus on me? It seems that everyone gets impatient and just attacks and don't allow me to get back before starting. I have read on how to stack things but just cannot get things to work.

[Pogues]

Does anyone know a good rotation for gladiator for holding agro?

So far I haven't gotten anyone killed yet but I do flash and the mobs sometimes don't attack me and continue chewing on my buds. Do I just need a better weapon? It is tough holding agro in this game compared to other MMO's

[juniglee]

Does anyone know a good rotation for gladiator for holding agro?

So far I haven't gotten anyone killed yet but I do flash and the mobs sometimes don't attack me and continue chewing on my buds. Do I just need a better weapon? It is tough holding agro in this game compared to other MMO's

Pre-26:
Pull one group of mobs with Shield Lob. Then Flash once. Then use Fast Blade -> Savage Blade on your first target, use Flash once more after. Switch to your second target and use Fast Blade -> Savage Blade. Use Flash once more. Rinse and repeat until 2 mobs remain, then just alternate Fast Blade -> Savage Blade without Flash, until the group dies.

Post-26:
Same as above, except you now have Fast Blade -> Savage Blade -> Rage of Halone combo. As part of a combo, Rage of Halone generates a lot of aggro, and is your most potent skill in the combo chain as well, so use it on that one mob that you might lose aggro towards. So far I've been repeating the above with Rage of Halone thrown in on a single target, which seems to work. Otherwise I'd use Fast Blade -> Savage Blade on my first target, and then Rage of Halone on the second target to help maintain the enmity.

Post-40:
Same as Post-26, but you will now have Shield Oath, which doubles your aggro generation from every enmity generating skill you have.

Check out the Tank Roles forums (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/657), lots of helpful tips there. I was once a lost lamb like you were, so I hope my advice helps out!

[Soldier]

As a tank you should put signs on your enemies to let your group know which mob your fighting. If you see a dps attacking another mob tell them plz attack the same target. If he or she did it again, let them tank it. Also, tell your group run toward you if they have mob on them. Also, tell your dps watch their dps hate meter,

green keep attacking, your dps are fine.
Partial red, back off a little let me put hate on mob
Red Tell your dps BACK the F***k OFF of the mob

[Shuon]

first make sure ur party members rnt ass holes

it helps to introduce urself politely at the beginning of the run, and say u r new, and that u need time to grasp things and there will be hiccups along the way. tell them from the start that patience is appreciated, and that if they are not willing to accommodate you, they should leave the duty. of course, be polite all the time!

if theybr ok, then just do what u gotta do: learn, be humble, be nice, and if they get impatient, that's their problem.

[Mezolitik]

Pre-26:
Pull one group of mobs with Shield Lob. Then Flash once. Then use Fast Blade -> Savage Blade on your first target, use Flash once more after. Switch to your second target and use Fast Blade -> Savage Blade. Use Flash once more. Rinse and repeat until 2 mobs remain, then just alternate Fast Blade -> Savage Blade without Flash, until the group dies.

While you're obviously more experienced than I am at this, doesn't continuous FB>SB usage drain too much TP - while Riot Blade restores it?

I try to alternate to some extent, as I once ended up with no TP in a raid boss encounter, and lost all aggro.

[Bixby]

While you're obviously more experienced than I am at this, doesn't continuous FB>SB usage drain too much TP - while Riot Blade restores it?

Riot Blade restores MP, not TP. And since it costs 80 TP vs. the 60 TP for either Fast Blade or Rage of Halone, it will drain you faster than the enmity combo.

Both tanks gradually run out of TP over the course of a fight. There isn't much you can do about it. By the time you're running low, you should have enough of a threat lead that slowing down isn't really a problem, though. In a fight where I know adds are coming, and I'm getting low on TP, I'll slow down on the TP moves to make sure I can grab them when they pop. In a fight where it's just the boss, I just go all-out until I can't anymore, and then deal with the pace the TP starvation enforces. Anytime you have to run out of AOE (or out of melee range for any other reason), resist the temptation to Shield Lob unless you absolutely need the extra enmity.

[DuhblinnZA]

I haven't really played tank in ARR yet, but I have in other MMOs. There are some great tips here, and the only thing I can add is that learning the dungeons before hand really helps.

I'm also a big fan of using macros, especially as a tank for setting priority on enemies (as Soldier mentioned) and skill rotations for aggro (juniglee's post). There's a good guide on Eorzea Reborn for how to create macros, along with (what I thought) was a nice intro to tanking focusing on Communication, Control and Mitigation.

Then as Shuon suggested, just communicate. Keep practicing pulling and keeping aggro, communicate with the party and make sure you know what to expect in the dungeon and you'll get the hang of it no time.