Method for Ending Gil Sellers for Good

[Noata]

IF they make their money from the markets you can blame them for low gil! Man these guys sell 100'ds of crystals then get banned that gil is forever lost from the player base QQ.

just kidding but that sounds somewhat relevant now that i think about it. SE is taking measures to combat gil sellers, if you are honestly concerned and really do care about it to the point of wanting it gone, the best thing you can do is report. they DO get banned. do your part to help stop them and let SE work out their system and take care of it. trust me they want them gone just as bad.

[Aenarion]

*laughs at people's inability to read and comprehend the post before they reply*

It's ok though, seems to be the norm around here. To the OP, good try, but if you were hoping that people would take the time to understand how the PLEX system actually works, you'll be sorely disappointed. I find the part about Plex destroying economy to be doubly ironic, considering Eve's economy is light years ahead in just about every aspect, and far more healthy than games like 14 can ever hope to come close to.

To be fair though, PLEX have not eliminated RMT in Eve either, but it does put a damper on them.

[Nullo]

I also play EVE so I am familiar with PLEX, and RMTers sell PLEX as well, on the market. The only thing this might combat is the shouting, but the RMT would still be there.

[Aenarion]

I also play EVE so I am familiar with PLEX, and RMTers sell PLEX as well, on the market. The only thing this might combat is the shouting, but the RMT would still be there.

Pretty much, which is why I did say it won't eliminate RMTs, what it will do is set a price ceiling over them and discourage buyers from dealing with shady 3rd party, while allow the company to capitalize on future service in advance.

[Noata]

Eve is real time progression how does its skills work (real time passes to learn) and through skills you are enabled to utilize certain features. and with no "Defined" endgame it has no Real endgame just what players spend there time doing. so when we talk End Game Content, you would say well there is none, the content exists the same across the board.

also changing the currency generation would lead only to a currency value change therefore would not ruin the economy. so that's not really the issue. but this proposal does not fix anything... as a matter of fact your merely milking more money from a subscription game, it would create gil sink issues, and solve nothing.. so again it is easy to see how this system wont work. also there is tons of RMT in eve...

[Reynhart]

My suggestion for killing RMT : Prevent gil sending or trading.
If you want to help a friend for buying an item, you can directly buy the item, and for a company member, use the company chest.

[jcw005]

My suggestion for killing RMT : Prevent gil sending or trading.
If you want to help a friend for buying an item, you can directly buy the item, and for a company member, use the company chest.

You can get around that by laundering money through the marketboard (although it'll be taxed). In fact, I'm fairly sure it occurs already. Every now and then you'll notice certain purchases that seem very out of the ordinary; I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of the methods by which it happens. As an example, yesterday, on my server, someone bought out all the Allagan gold pieces on the marketboard, paying as much as 12K+ gil per piece. Behavior like this is highly dubious. (On a side note, depending on the world transfer policies, buying Allagan silver/gold pieces on a flush Legacy server could serve as an effective way to bypass currency restrictions. This instance, however, is too drastic for that to be the logic behind such an action.)

Along those lines, it's easy enough for S-E to simply parse the logs for any trades that involve gil amounts over a certain threshold trading hands, but it's much harder to do with the marketboard. For one, comparing each transaction against the standard deviation for that item is difficult since prices fluctuate wildly and items can suddenly sell for a ton, or the market can suddenly crash, and that's not even taking into account the computational cost of such a measure.

TL;DR: Pretty sure the gil sellers are already bypassing direct gil transactions.

[Seig345]

In Eve, just about anything you want to do requires money since player actions basically make up 99% of the game's content. In FFXIV, you aren't required to make gil to do a good chunk of the game's content. you'd likely have to spend a great deal of your time grinding dungeons over and over again just to make enough gil to buy gametime with gil. You're not likely to see enough people grinding dungeons that much just for enough gil to buy 'free' game time to satisy the needs of all the lazy people buying from gil sellers out there.

[Reokudo]

Or, they could do what EME did(Yes, the NA publisher of TERA) and ban China from accessing their servers. Despite there being SOME other places that sell gil that may not be from there, the majority are from China. Tera does not have a single gold seller from what I can remember. Prevent a problem before it can become one, ban the source. That is the only real solution to stop RMT. Argue the point if you will, but from all my encounters of RMT in XI, they were all chinese.

[Flarestar]

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Won't work.

PLEX works in EVE because it has a carefully controlled and monitored economy - isk has a distinct real world value.

FFXIV's economy is... laughably managed, at best.

And even in EVE, PLEX didn't get rid of RMT. All it did was drive the prices down below the cost of a PLEX for the equivalent amount of isk.