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    Genjisamurai's Avatar
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    Renzo Genji
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I find summoner useless for demon wall. I ran it two times however how am I supposed to apply DOTs to the bugs if I am constantly moving? Also forget my pet. My pet is absolutely useless during this. I focus on myself trying to survive rather than my pet.
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    Ano Molly
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Genjisamurai View Post
    I find summoner useless for demon wall. I ran it two times however how am I supposed to apply DOTs to the bugs if I am constantly moving? Also forget my pet. My pet is absolutely useless during this. I focus on myself trying to survive rather than my pet.
    For Demon wall you can try using Ifrit instead of Garuda Egi they won't die from the poison and will give constant damage
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    Haredin-Hunter's Avatar
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    Nanashi Shinku
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    For me personally I'm biased against beastmaster type classes... and dot classes, so while your dps might be the same as everyone else.... I just don't see it as much as I would on say a burstmaster dragoon. I'd really rather you be a scholar. It's not you... it's me.
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    Her Majesty
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Genjisamurai View Post
    I find summoner useless for demon wall. I ran it two times however how am I supposed to apply DOTs to the bugs if I am constantly moving? Also forget my pet. My pet is absolutely useless during this. I focus on myself trying to survive rather than my pet.
    The same way a black mage casts nukes and a healer casts healing spells? Demon wall is easy, just strafe left and right, you have several seconds to cast. SMN has an advantage over BLM in that your DoTs are still rolling while you are shifting left and right.
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    SirWethamster's Avatar
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    Sir Wethamster
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    Sargatanas
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Genjisamurai View Post
    I find summoner useless for demon wall. I ran it two times however how am I supposed to apply DOTs to the bugs if I am constantly moving? Also forget my pet. My pet is absolutely useless during this. I focus on myself trying to survive rather than my pet.
    Same with the scholars fairy, though I've noticed that my fairy doesn't take damage from the purple AoE lines the boss places on the ground, so pet's don't need to dodge them. Or at least fairy seems to be able to manage itself. Pretty sure the big AoE in the back would kill a summon though, haven't been interested in testing it out. Though just a thought, a swift cast might be handy to use on your first DoT on the gnats, then when the tank has bunched em up bane em. Usually whenever I've tanked as paladin, I've been attempting to cluster the flies on me, which would help using things like bane immensely.
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    Hamtaro Kakamaro
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Genjisamurai View Post
    I find summoner useless for demon wall. I ran it two times however how am I supposed to apply DOTs to the bugs if I am constantly moving? Also forget my pet. My pet is absolutely useless during this. I focus on myself trying to survive rather than my pet.
    You sir, don't know how to play SMN. Just go play something else... maybe DRG, or MNK might suit your play style better.
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    Renzo Genji
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by HamHam View Post
    You sir, don't know how to play SMN. Just go play something else... maybe DRG, or MNK might suit your play style better.
    I don't which is why I am learning. I always apply DOT's, use bane/shadowflare/Miasma 2 when necessary. While I am waiting for cool downs I use ruin and apply rouse/sustain/spur.

    I also I have a Dragoon. However I like summoner more. I am still trying to level up my black mage to get swiftcast.
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    Last edited by Genjisamurai; 09-21-2013 at 04:00 AM.