PALADIN-Circle of Scorn

[WobbleGobble]

Circle of Scorn needs a smaller cooldown

the coodlown needs to be reduced from 25 second to 10 seconds



I have tried many combination to keep hold of agro so my team can focus fire 1 target at a time but I still seem to lose agro,

im switching targets to keep emity on each target, im using dots and flash after every combo which seems to be the best way of using flash by experience and using circle of scorn when its up, but im still losing agro from targets we are not focus and for some reason dispite the spam of amity I use on the lost target that's chasing the healer or sommoner around the area I cant seem to pull it back off of him without having to shield bash to stun the target.
and even single targets I lose agro sometimes dispite me using the emity combo followed by flash and scorn.

but if circle of scorn had a reduced cooldown to make it usefulll enough paladins could proberly hold agro muc better.

What level of content are you doing?

[CyanDvai]

Tanking the story dungeons is easy, granted I haven't gotten into AK yet, but majority of the time I have no problems in WP tanking 3-4 mobs.
Yes it's always nice when you get that Mage that will actually sleep the extras and dps that will target and dps your marks and yes it's very frustrating when you get mages and melee aoeing everything in sight and not targeting your mob and your healing is using aoe mass heals.

Tanking can be easy if the others players know how to watch their enmity, or it can be a royal pain in the ass.

[GinsterUnit]

I'd love circle of scorn to have a high aggro consecrate effect <3_<3

[Sentinel]

I think the biggest mistake a lot of PLDs are making is using RoH during extended AoE fights when you should be using RB chain instead and spamming as much Flash of light as possible. Yer not a tank, don't worry about doing DPS during an AoE fight

Some key things to consider and keep in mind.

1. Make peace with the fact that you will not be doing much damage, don't get greedy and try to pinch out as much dps as possible, this is an aggro game for you, pure and simple.
2. If this is a fight where adds are going to be pouring in over and over, spam flash as much as you can and also spam RB chain to make sure you are good on mana throughout the fight, don't run out of mana, if you do, you have potentially wiped the group.
3. Keep Spirits within and Mercy stroke on reserve as tools to gain aggro on singular mobs who might be getting out of hand.
4. You may pop offensive CDs and do RoH on 2 mobs, but anything more, use above rotation.

[SyndellJigokusakebigoe]

Not to seem like a jerk but, if you are having issues holding agro on mobs that are not being dps'd either the healer is over healing or you probably need to find a better way to hold agro across multiple mobs.

I personally never spam flash to the point that I am out of MP during trash mobs as I have never needed to. If the mobs aren't being put to Sleep, then you should Fast/Savage/Flash/RoH/Flash the first one DPS are on, then start Fast on the first, Savage the second, Flash, RoH third. (While comboing Two and Three with Enmity abilities, you may skip Flash between 2 and 3 if you have pretty solid agro on 1, but definately Flash before getting back on 1)

Also, your DPS also has to adjust some to different tanks as not all tanks are created equal (by this I mean not all PLDs build Enmity at the same rate)

[Tanaya]

4. You may pop offensive CDs and do RoH on 2 mobs, but anything more, use above rotation.

Not sure why you set the limit at 2. You do not need to only spam Flash for 3 mobs. Four or more, sure. But 3 mobs are the standard.

Flash (Circle of Scorn) > Halone Combo (Spirits Within) > Flash > Fast Blade > Savage Blade (2nd Target) > Rage of Halone (3rd Target) > Repeat Cycle

If your DPS aren't stupid and are focusing on one target, this'll work every time.

[Duelle]

I'd ask for Shield Swipe to be off the GCD before wanting to change Circle of Scorn in any way that doesn't involve letting me use it a LOT earlier in the game. >.>

[spartacus82]

I'm havin this problem with keeping aggro as well, there is always one member of the mob that goes to the healer and it's really frustrating cause then I end up getting grief from the healer for letting him get attacked. As far as I know I'm using the right combos but I'm just struggling to get the aggro and I don't know what it is that I'm doing wrong...

[Fyreus]

I'm havin this problem with keeping aggro as well, there is always one member of the mob that goes to the healer and it's really frustrating cause then I end up getting grief from the healer for letting him get attacked. As far as I know I'm using the right combos but I'm just struggling to get the aggro and I don't know what it is that I'm doing wrong...

Provoke the target, shield lob the target, move in for flash, and make that your main target for a cycle of RoH and go back to work. If your weapon is behind, i suggest getting a better one asap and possibly cycling your defensive moves/making all mobs face your shield so that your whm's hate doesn't go too high over cures.

The other options are to figure out what's going on in your party just in case those people are soloing their mob because they 'need to hold their own' and let someone bite the dust if they're becoming a problem. Healers have no issue with this. If they need a quick raise you can pop all def if they're unable to fast cast a raise. Hopefully a lesson is learned.

[Columbian]

I also have aoe aggro problems sometimes. I use the curtana+1, and have done upto the final stage in BC T4. No matter how I use my skills, I always loose some spiders when tanking 4-7mobs. Even spamming flash till Im OOM w/ FoF. Tabbing RoH in between just isn't enough. There is no time to combo every mob for aggro either.

Still hunting for better ways to hold big groups off of relic dps/heals...