random Duty Finder groups - Square Enix attitude solution INC

[Velhart]

Hello,

From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be very difficult to have a vote to kick feature for the Duty Finder, and we are planning to implement this.

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur. Due to this, we are continuing to look into the feature, as well as whether we will implement this in patch 2.1.

It is simple. You make it a "Vote to Kick" and put a restriction on how many times you can do it within a period of time. Prevents one person acting maliciously and at the same time, preventing it from being abused. Also, make it so you are within a certain amount of time in the dungeon itself to do it, so people don't abuse it by kicking you right when it begins. I understand the system can be used in malicious intent, but I think the positives of it outweigh the negative. Sometimes you have a good party with nice people and you have one person who misbehaves and intentionally makes things harder on us, the only thing you can do is convince him to leave, or leave yourself.

One thing that always bugged me about the system SE puts in place is that whatever restriction to a system they make, they take it out on all of us because a negligible amount of people might actually abuse it. Rather if it is /tell while in instance or something like a kick feature. I wish you guys could trust us a little more. Don't let a few bad eggs make you decide upon actions that affect the community as a whole in a negative way.

[Dawning-Blue]

Hello,

From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be very difficult to have a vote to kick feature for the Duty Finder, and we are planning to implement this.

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur. Due to this, we are continuing to look into the feature, as well as whether we will implement this in patch 2.1.

NO KICK Feature Please in Duty Finder. Solo players like me will get cheated i'm not in a FC and have no choice but to use Duty Finder. Find another way to get rid of AFK Players

[Khalus]

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like

Lawl, thats the entire purpose of us wanting a vote/kick system:

• you don't like that player because they're being an ass and talking shit
• you don't like that player because they are not geared well enough
• you don't like that player because he's gone AFK and not helping the PT
• etc etc etc

Although I doubt it would be used maliciously since it would require a 2/3 vote. Its been working just fine in many other MMOs for years. If you get vote kicked then you more than likely deserved it!

[Raymeo]

Hello,

From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be very difficult to have a vote to kick feature for the Duty Finder, and we are planning to implement this.

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur. Due to this, we are continuing to look into the feature, as well as whether we will implement this in patch 2.1.

Thank you. Now that we've established that we can back pedal when it comes to vote kicking, can we please have the same kindness shown to those who'd like to /tell while in Duty Finder? Even if it's just to people in their linkshells or free company?

[Blacksmith_Tony]

Please consider vote kick, since there's a growing number of players now purposely leeching in DF runs, hiding in corners and such while the rest of the party has to try to fight the content without them.

I'm also personally peeved at this because last night during a CM run, there was BLM hiding in a corner taunting the rest of our group as we were doing the run while refusing to help, stating that he's going to keep doing it as there's no ban penalties for such behavior. I shot a support ticket in reporting him for cheating, since he's abusing the system in an unintended way, and explained how he was benefiting from a way not designed, but if there's a more proper "system" to this, feel free to direct me to it.

It wasn't the first time I had a player in my party flatout refuse to play, and I know it's not going to be the last. Back in XI, that was considered disruptive behavior, and SE was always quick to correct it, but you guys seem to be really lax so far in XIV.

[Makeda]

Hello,

From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be very difficult to have a vote to kick feature for the Duty Finder, and we are planning to implement this.

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur. Due to this, we are continuing to look into the feature, as well as whether we will implement this in patch 2.1.

Yep. I've almost never seen vote-to-kick used properly.
As a tank for years in WoW, it was not usually me - but I've very often seen a pack of bad attitude players boot out the one other person I thought was nice in the group... and when I go as DPS or Heals - I see tank use it all the time to go after the 'newbie' rather than the rude person.

vote-to-kick is mostly a griefer tool, if it lacks strong counter-incentives.

[Sekkerhund]

concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur.

Its not a developer's responsibility to force players to play with each other and because they believe it is, these RGF tools have raised a new generation of players that don't know how to make friends and groups, or learn that there are consequences to how they treat each other.

Each new "malicious play countermeasure" just creates more problems than it solves, so just get back to basics:

Implement a 60-second "non-grouped kick" for instances and allow groups to disband and reform while in an instance, as long as they get it done in 60s. The group is able to fill group and finish the instance. This way nobody is faced with a penalty by having to voluntarily leave an instance, while the player who was disbanded (for whatever reason) learns a life lesson.

[Arec]

Hello,

From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be very difficult to have a vote to kick feature for the Duty Finder, and we are planning to implement this.

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur. Due to this, we are continuing to look into the feature, as well as whether we will implement this in patch 2.1.

about that; ive seen people leave at first group. And they didnt even attempt to communicate with the groups. Alot of the western players can be really intense.

[Eekiki]

about that; ive seen people leave at first group. And they didnt even attempt to communicate with the groups. Alot of the western players can be really intense.

Fixed that for you. Don't make assumptions please.

[Yuripa]

Hello,

From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be very difficult to have a vote to kick feature for the Duty Finder, and we are planning to implement this.

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur. Due to this, we are continuing to look into the feature, as well as whether we will implement this in patch 2.1.

Doing dungeons is a big part of this game and having to do them with someone afk, disconnected or refusing to work with the team and they keep trying to wipe the group is not sitting well with your customers. I would really suggest that it is in 2.1 before more people quit.