random Duty Finder groups - Square Enix attitude solution INC

[Khalus]

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like

Lawl, thats the entire purpose of us wanting a vote/kick system:

• you don't like that player because they're being an ass and talking shit
• you don't like that player because they are not geared well enough
• you don't like that player because he's gone AFK and not helping the PT
• etc etc etc

Although I doubt it would be used maliciously since it would require a 2/3 vote. Its been working just fine in many other MMOs for years. If you get vote kicked then you more than likely deserved it!

[Steeled]

Naturally, what they're worried about is fresh 50s in full AF getting kicked because the group wants a fast clear.

It's a rightful concern. This community is the worst.

[Cikala]

It is sickening how much SE is trying to baby the playerbase. No vote kick because some people might try to use it maliciously. No tells in dungeon because someone might talk trash about someone else. No dueling because someone might see it and be scared they'll get ganked. I mean really, are we all 3 year old children? SE, if this is the maturity level you think the majority of your playerbase is at, well, you have no one to blame but yourselves by catering to said level.

[Ran1880]

Kindness grinding for items is just cheap <.<.
Oh boy I hope we don't have to farm 'friendly' gear lol
SE I see your point to bring harmony to the community, but this is just over the border imo
I'n rather sceptical wether this will work or not

[IzumiRaito]

Some problems of vote kick that has to be taken care of or it will be a disaster:

1. Kick player for watching cutscenes.
2. If u cant kick cutcscene watcher, kick a random player to dodge the leave penalty.
3. Premade having full power to votekick the "random". For example kicking dps for not having relic +1 and full dl for ak, hoping next one will be an "upgrade".
4. 3 randomly matched over geared elite players kick the 4th player that barely passed the gearscore check, hoping that replacement will be an "upgrade".

A nice solution can be combination of:

1. Explicit written law what are valid reasons to kick and what are invalid reasons.
2. Requirement for each player that votes to elaborate the reason on at least 20 characters. Any "/10char" type placeholders are strictly forbidden.
3. Complaint system. Kicked player can pose a complain that gets investigated by a GM.
If he is judged guilty and the kick reason was valid, the player receives additional punishment for what he did (a few days non-full premade DF ban).
If he is found innocent, unfairly kicked player gets 1 day gametime compensation. Every player that voted "yes" loses 1 day of gametime. Additionaly they become unable to enter DF without full premade for 7 days on first unfair kick. Next offence of "unfair kick" results in permament unability to enter DF without full premade.
If any player is found of using placeholder characters in the vote reason, that player gets an additional 1 day DF ban regardless of the investigation result.

[Raymeo]

Hello,

From a technical standpoint, it wouldn't be very difficult to have a vote to kick feature for the Duty Finder, and we are planning to implement this.

However, as there is the concern that it could be used maliciously to get rid of players that groups do not like, we are working hard to create a system that reduces the chances for problems to occur. Due to this, we are continuing to look into the feature, as well as whether we will implement this in patch 2.1.

Thank you. Now that we've established that we can back pedal when it comes to vote kicking, can we please have the same kindness shown to those who'd like to /tell while in Duty Finder? Even if it's just to people in their linkshells or free company?

[Alhanelem]

I think a good countermeasure to ensure that people aren't likely to kick people just for turds and giggles would be to simply have a minimum amount of time that must elapse, say, 10 minutes, before vote kicking is possible. This would give the player the chance to demonstrate to the others that he isn't going to be a problem before they immediately oust him.

[Blacksmith_Tony]

Please consider vote kick, since there's a growing number of players now purposely leeching in DF runs, hiding in corners and such while the rest of the party has to try to fight the content without them.

I'm also personally peeved at this because last night during a CM run, there was BLM hiding in a corner taunting the rest of our group as we were doing the run while refusing to help, stating that he's going to keep doing it as there's no ban penalties for such behavior. I shot a support ticket in reporting him for cheating, since he's abusing the system in an unintended way, and explained how he was benefiting from a way not designed, but if there's a more proper "system" to this, feel free to direct me to it.

It wasn't the first time I had a player in my party flatout refuse to play, and I know it's not going to be the last. Back in XI, that was considered disruptive behavior, and SE was always quick to correct it, but you guys seem to be really lax so far in XIV.

[ashikenshin]

the votekick would have to be something that doesn't interfere with looting. If, for example, you are in a group and 3 are friends, kill a boss but want the leather boots for your DoW class and will kick the monk so he doesn't get to roll. The limitation would be that you would still be able to kick the monk but after loot is distributed. So that you don't deny someone of loot. Also that you can't kick someone during a boss fight or at the end. They have to work out the kinks so that it doesn't get abused. Because a kick function CAN and WILL be abused if possible.

[Pyretta_Blaze]

I'm really looking forward to a kick option. Yes there have to be safeties in place to keep people from abusing the system as much as possible but lets face it jerks are already abandoning the group if anyone types "My first run" and nothing is going to prevent that behaviour 100%.

I've had entire runs dorked up because a FC member lost power and there was no way to continue without leaving the dungeon and queue up again. Between that and the afk people in CM runs I believe it will do more good than evil.