random Duty Finder groups - Square Enix attitude solution INC

[Zfz]

If you're in a group with 8 friendly strangers, each person can earn 7 votes.

You get exactly 1 vote (to cast on others). Votes can only be cast on Random Duty players.

It's very unlikely all 8 of you are eligible to receive votes, because random duty puts you into content that is already short of people of your particular role. So at most 7 randoms and there will only be 1 vote available. Or 1 random, and 7 votes available. In the latter case, all 7 votes will either end up on that one person, or some of it won't be cast.

Of course, what is to stop people from not up voting you so you have to queue more allowing them to get faster queues, or just to troll you in a completely different way.

Nothing. We can't force people to vote either, because that would counter the whole point of the MVP system.

rewarding Tanks/Healers when they are in high demand

They're doing that as well. There will be indications on the Duty Finder that says "we're short of tanks now, queue for some bonus" kind of thing. This info is also in the very same interview with Yoshi-P.

[makii]

Yes, make the game into reddit 2.0.
Splendid idea..

[Ruminate]

You get exactly 1 vote (to cast on others). Votes can only be cast on Random Duty players.

It's very unlikely all 8 of you are eligible to receive votes, because random duty puts you into content that is already short of people of your particular role. So at most 7 randoms and there will only be 1 vote available. Or 1 random, and 7 votes available. In the latter case, all 7 votes will either end up on that one person, or some of it won't be cast.

How do you know you get exactly one vote? The system hasn't been out yet, and translations are never ever 100% accurate.

[Zfz]

Indeed there's no clarification on the number of votes we get. Although I don't read translations. I read the original. And it was worded like this:

"This person is the MVP." (Emphasis mine.)

It wasn't that "this person is a MVP", so I read it as that you only get to choose one from the whole party.

But of course that may be reading too far, or it may just be a mis-representation, or even it may change in the end.

[Ruminate]

So it could go either way. Well, here's to hoping its 1 vote per party member system.

[Jynxii]

They're doing that as well. There will be indications on the Duty Finder that says "we're short of tanks now, queue for some bonus" kind of thing. This info is also in the very same interview with Yoshi-P.

Yes I read this, although the information is quite limited. I did skim through it, but it talks about an 'experience bonus', which seems redundant if you are queuing with a level 50 class to 'help out'. I love that the game has the ability to scale players down so you can play with friends/help out other players, but if people use this system, whether they are 49 or 50, and the rewards also 'scale down', there is a problem.

Let say hypothetically the reward is 100 per level (simple math). At level 50 you'd get a 5,000 gil reward for using your time to help out strangers. Ultimately, this is a time investment, nothing more. Now if it scaled down based on content, and you got Dzemael Darkhold (scale to 46), you'd get 4,600, which isn't so bad right? What about if you got Satasha (scale to 17)? Now your time is only worth 1,700 gil. Adversely, if you were level 20 (hypothetical max of 2,000) and got scaled down to 17 the 'gil loss' would be less significant, however you'd also be gaining experience and (potentially) gear.

This is why I believe the rewards should be based on the actual level of the class, not the dungeon/scaled down level. People are using their time to help others out; why should RNG determine how much that time is worth?

[Pathetic]

this system would be exploit to hell. pple who seek mutual benefit would just vote each other up and trend would follow.Willing to vote up for you if you willing to vote up for me mind set.Had nothing to do with being nice lol.

[Pandamonious]

Make repairs purchaseable with mvp tokens and this would work

SE you need to make this happen.

[Alerith]

I don't know where people are getting this "Only tanks and healers would get upvotes." I've met plenty of players who are pretty bad at both, and we barely scrape by in the run thanks to a DPS spectacularly finishing the boss off in time.

Speaking as a Paladin main: Tanks and Healers are not infallible and there are some pretty horrific players playing them for fast queues. I'll gladly give my upvotes to a worthy DD.

[FrogDog]

I'm not really liking this idea, since votes of this nature are more about popularity and visibility than who worked hard or had useful insight.

As for attitudes, nice should be the default. I'm normally for incentives, but in this case I think they should just give groups a recourse against bad players instead of trying to coax good behavior with vanity items.