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[Crica]

honestly the only thing I'd want from karma points (essentially what these are) is that you'd be priority matched with players of a similar karma score (e.g. jerks with no karma only get matched with other jerks, etc)

Though it would be priority not a hard and fast rule, just for the sake of keeping the DF functional.

this, again, simply creates a stagnant community by excluding players whom make mistakes or new players with no experience

if you want your community to grow, you must encourage players to learn from mistakes and include new players with no experiance and not exclude them

[Alhanelem]

this, again, simply creates a stagnant community by excluding players whom make mistakes or new players with no experience

if you want your community to grow, you must encourage players to learn from mistakes and include new players with no experiance and not exclude them

It doesn't create a stagnant anything. If you don't want to be paired with jerks, don't be a jerk and you'll get more karma. Also, as I said, it won't prevent a match if there are only just enough people for a party- it will still form parties with anyone, only favoring similar karma scores if it's possible. Thus, you're very likely to have oppertunities to improve your behavior.

The only reason to be opposed to this idea is because you're a toxic player. Riot Games has done extensive research on the topic of toxic players, and they have developed systems that promote friendly behavior and reduce toxic behavior in a community known for being extremely toxic.

[coffeepotz]

honestly the only thing I'd want from karma points (essentially what these are) is that you'd be priority matched with players of a similar karma score (e.g. jerks with no karma only get matched with other jerks, etc)

Though it would be priority not a hard and fast rule, just for the sake of keeping the DF functional.

What about new players with no points?

They will probably get grouped with like people with the same rank. 0 ranked players get grouped with 0 ranked players. Though, would have to be a big gap so that DF doesn't get even slower..

Then new players will get ranked with bad/mean players...

[Rawrrior]

What about new players with no points?

They will probably get grouped with like people with the same rank. 0 ranked players get grouped with 0 ranked players. Though, would have to be a big gap so that DF doesn't get even slower..

[M4Fade]

Just waiting for the "Kick" feature to be added. I think every game with a "Dungeon Finder" has it. People will use it to grief, sure.. that's inevitable, but the majority will use it when necessary/needed.

Time to step up SE!

[Adva]

That would be nice but it could also be abused. Tank or healer goes into group and demands the group upvote him/her or they leave giving the party the choice to either do what they say or spend another 30 to 40 min in queue. If it's done when the run is over then I can see that working.

[Seraphi]

That would be nice but it could also be abused. Tank or healer goes into group and demands the group upvote him/her or they leave giving the party the choice to either do what they say or spend another 30 to 40 min in queue. If it's done when the run is over then I can see that working.

Everything can be abused. You need to weigh the pros to the cons and determine which is more important.

A lot of other MMO's have random dungeon queues, and vote kick systems, and while yes abuse can happen, in my experiences it's far less prevalent than people are implying.

[Dante_Purgatory]

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Wait....did you just made that up, or is SE really considering to introduce this system?
If so, I think it's a great idea.
I just hope it won't be like, "hey, vote me up and i'll vote you up" before you even get to say {Hello}.
To avoid that, voting should only be possible after defeating the boss or when time runs out.
Just like rating the service after you had a live chat with the support.
Edit: And it would be awesome if rage-quitters would lose some points. To make sure that the first person to leave won't get punished when everyone in the group agrees on quitting, there has to be a vote for quitting the dungeon.

[Crica]

Wait....did you just made that up, or is SE really considering to introduce this system?
If so, I think it's a great idea.
I just hope it won't be like, "hey, vote me up and i'll vote you up" before you even get to say {Hello}.
To avoid that, voting should only be possible after defeating the boss or when time runs out.
Just like rating the service after you had a live chat with the support.

SE is really going to implement the feature - was a Japanese interview with Yoshi-P

the Japanese translation thread most likely has it if you do not speak Japansese

if there is no way to see if someone has up voted you or not, then there is no reason to up vote them for an up vote

more then likely, the votes will be anonymously talleyed and points distributed once a week in order to ensure no one "trades votes"