random Duty Finder groups - Square Enix attitude solution INC

[Khyranthir]

I like the idea as it's a rather benign way to reward people willing to work with strangers. Not enirely sure how people can abuse it. Either you get a upvote, or you don't. If you get one, awesome. If not, oh well. Personally, I like to see an incentive for folk to give it a little extra.

Not enirely sure I can see how it can be abused. Nobody can be held hostage by folks demanding an upvote AFTER the instance is over. There is NO downvoting which can totally be abused. Obviously you can't vote for friends you queue with since that can be abused just as easily.

No, this system rewards people who cooperate with others when they have no influence over them outside of their performance in the instance. And it harms no one except those who want the rewards yet refuse to play with strangers.

Playing with friends is its own reward.

[ashikenshin]

you can then level a tank or a healer and get your items faster. This will be more helpful for others dps since their queue time will be lower. You know, two birds one stone.

[Istarien]

you can then level a tank or a healer and get your items faster. This will be more helpful for others dps since their queue time will be lower. You know, two birds one stone.

As a player who always plays healer, tank, or some other low-damage support class, I think it's kind of nice to have the advantage in a game system for once. Usually, tanks, healers, and support get the lowest score/contribution/rank/reward because they aren't doing enough damage. To be sure, every effort should be made to make the system equitable, but it's a refreshing change to not automatically get the shaft in mechanics like this.

[Jeffro]

HOPEFULLY people will retain the purpose of playing a game in the first place; to have fun. I get irked by elitists as much as the next guy, but always having something to look forward to is nice. I know we're just breaking the surface with the game now since we haven't even passed the first level cap into the REAL endgame era yet (just think, we're all donning the equivalent of the original AF in FFXI. How crappy is that gear now?) MVP stature could always reward nifty little things like +1 boosts here and there to pieces of armor of your choosing just to add some customization. As long as I don't see everyone running around in scorpion harnesses and rogues culottes I'll be happy.

[Snooj]

I'd rather see a downvote system actually. I can't imagine I, or others, will constantly upvote people every single run just because they weren't a jerk. But if I can right click someone and there's "downvote for jerkness!", sure. Also, since an upvote system provides rewards--which are just cosmetic and so many people don't even care--, there's no incentive to still not be a jerk. If too many downvotes puts a lockout timer on all dungeons for however long, now that's an incentive.

Of course, that can also be abused, so I don't even know how I feel about that.

[Bluebun]

DOTA 2 / Valve has a system where at the end of a match:
1) You can commend players (Under Categories such as Friendly, Leadership etc.)
2) Report Abuse with stipulation to what kind of abuse. (Purposely Feeding, Chat/ Voice Abuse, Using abilities to purposely ruin a game)
3) Rate the match with 5 Star system. (Not really anything except feedback for SE)

People who are reported for abuse by enough players get reviewed. (Chat logs etc.) and action can be taken against them. Punishment can vary from being put on "Low priority" during Duty Finder (So it'll take longer to find a DF party.) To being banned for a day(s).

ARR could really learn a lot from this system... because the assholes on the internet are universal, and this system weeds them out fairly well.

[Saidosha]

I'm for a vote kick, but it needs conditions.

1) In a light party, must be 3/4 vote. Full party is 6/8.
2) Vote kicks can not be initiated while anyone has enmity or is within a CS. If a fight starts while the prompt is active, the kick is canceled.
3) Vote kicks can not be initiated if there is treasure to be distributed.
4) Vote kicks can not be initiated until 3m after a boss kill/wipe has passed if a boss has been engaged. (Giving more than enough time to trigger #3's condition)
5) You may only initiate one kick attempt per instance, refunded if the attempt is interrupted by #2.
6) Failure to vote within the time of the prompt will be considered a No.

...it's not perfect, but ultimately it should minimize griefing potential.

[Molly_Millions]

I'm not sure what the right solution is, but the situation is dire. I had to MPK and ditch a jerk of a SCH just this morning in AK before the first boss.

...Yes, I had to.

[Sinth]

Are your children misbehaving? Bribe them. That is always the best route to an unspoiled development, amirite?

[Paspalum]

--> my desire is to not see Vote-Kick implemented. But a Vote down meter for those that play the game maliciously.

I finally got my bf to play this game with me and we are both new to MMOs and just at the lv 25 dungeon, he is a tank and he tries so hard to learn but we were paired with 2 DD jerks that were so demeaning to him and mocking him that he has had the game ruined by such trolls. The learning curve is steep and there is almost no in game help, you learn by practicing dungeon runs (and reading the forums) but right now we are playing and we just dread the next dungeon run because of the unpleasantness,most people are leveling up their 2nd or 3rd class and farming equipment and have no time for newbies or people who want to watch cutscenes.

Anyway, that's why a down button wouldn't work, cuz newbies would just be voted down by jerks like above, but vote up might, cuz you would only vote up the decent players who were not rude jerks