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    Player Kayo's Avatar
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    Kayo Vedo
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    Archer Lv 50
    So be nice until I buy everything I can buy with MVP? Got it!

    Or maybe its better to continue being a dick for faster gear progression then worry about MVP once Im done since there is no downvoting. Guess it depends on what I can buy with MVP.

    Ok no not really but this isnt a solution. Itll help, I guess, but aholes get their joy from being aholes. It gives their pathetic life meaning. This isnt going to stop most of them.

    What we NEED is a huge cross server blacklist that blocks accounts, not characters. In other words, Blisting 'Jerk Ahole' from X server, will block every single character in Jerk Ahole's account from ever being matched with you, or anything else he/she might type.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    I hope the stuff isn't only obtained this way, because while that certainly does encourage using the Derpy Finder and not being a prick, it doesn't encourage the basic principles behind a MMO... You know... How you find friends and play with them? I really have no reason to ever touch Duty Finder solo, but unless I do I don't get this stuff? Gee thanks for encouraging me to play with my friends...
    Soooo use it? You going to complain about PvP gear too if you dont PvP? There are many ways to get many different things in this and many other games, theyre not going to stop giving it because someone doesnt want to participate in it. This may even get a bigger player pool in the DF ... including more tanks/healers who are more likely to stick with FC because of their high demand. Might be a better idea than I originally thought, actually.

    MMOs arent for friends only, btw ... its a community. No where does it say its "basic principle" is to stick with your static group nor should it encourage it either.
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    Last edited by Kayo; 10-01-2013 at 04:09 AM.

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    KaiKatzchen's Avatar
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    Kai Ulric
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    Siren
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayo View Post
    What we NEED is a huge cross server blacklist that blocks accounts, not characters. In other words, Blisting 'Jerk Ahole' from X server, will block every single character in Jerk Ahole's account from ever being matched with you, or anything else he/she might type.
    I suggested this as well and I think it's a great idea. If 'X' is being rude every run and tons of people Blist them this its they fault they have to wait longer to get into DF's.
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    I'm just a bun boy, doing bun boy things.

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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Ya, a better concept would be a "contribution" output that's shown after an event ends which showcases heals and dmg done by the party members. If a party member falls under the treshold to be worthy of the reward they obtain nothing. So say in CM or the final dungeon for story a person stays at the start an accumulates no dmg or healing throughout the encounter. Because of this they would obtain no tome rewards because they did nothing to contribute to the party.

    Of course people have to go afk at times so for that there could be 2 stages,
    50% reward and 100% rewards.

    In terms of CM and the last dungeon the 50% reward could be obtained by at least helping with half the dungeon so while yes leechers may still exist to an extent, if said leechers want the full reward then they might as well help the whole way.

    100% will be for those who help throughout the whole dungeon and pull their weight but done in such a way where the overall battle output would allow for each player to gain 200% of the 100% they need so as long as they help the whole way there is no issue.

    But then they could also add caps to each stage so a person can't accumulate 100% through some exploit such as 25% at the first part, 50% midway, 75% near the end and the rest gained through the final boss fight.

    This would encourage people to actually play, the MVP system does nothing more than add another troll concept because said trolls can be like, nah I'm not voting for anyone but beg everyone to vote for them, of course they won't and then snarky remarks and negative communication will occur and it just in the end doesn't help the situation.
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    Vaughn Dimaio
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Ya, a better concept would be a "contribution" output that's shown after an event ends which showcases heals and dmg done by the party members. If a party member falls under the treshold to be worthy of the reward they obtain nothing. So say in CM or the final dungeon for story a person stays at the start an accumulates no dmg or healing throughout the encounter. Because of this they would obtain no tome rewards because they did nothing to contribute to the party.
    I think this is a good idea, the only problem with this is the people getting locked out of the boss battles because they watched the cutscenes. If they could fix that then I would be behind this 100%.
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    Player NeruMew's Avatar
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    Neru Silverlight
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    Balmung
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    @Airget once again ... this will not work, will only make it worse, sigh, for many reasons, someone outgearing the rest not giving room for them to do much, ppl fighting over who does what, maybe if you say that if they spend x amount of time being afk, to be cut off rewards sure.. but you can't just flat out do that.., anyway

    What I wanted to say is that giving those tangible rewards are NOT going to help, people should look forward being nice and friendly for the mere fact of being NICE, not for the goodies they'll get in reward, what was mention before plus..

    Continues...
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    AdvancedWind's Avatar
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Stay quiet and do nothing out of the ordinary during the entire dungeon, while other players teach strategies or just make a few jokes.

    Then, as the last boss is defeated, you send your first message since the start of the run





    "Please commend."
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    Felix Anderson
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    People do not speak unless it is negative.... Remember the old Xbox rating system? it would look something like this:

    1% of players left a review
    97% of them gave negative review
    3% positive

    you are a bad player.
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    Ritz Blitz
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I think SE's current response might improve behavior but not fix it much.

    This is more or less what Demon's Souls did: After you finished an instance or the party stopped because someone died, you would rank each other on the following scale [D C B A S].

    Whenever a player chose to form a party with someone, they got to see the other player's rating first. The rating appeared like this:
    --D----C----B----A-----S--
    3.2% 4.8% 70% 11.4% 10.6%

    Players would choose to join people with higher ratings first as you would expect. This system had a loophole where you could do parties with friends and give each other S ratings so if this solution were implemented, parties shouldn't be allowed to be preformed and vote like SE is doing with their current response. If people would get rated on a scale like this they would have to play in a publicly acceptable manner to join groups, which some people are not doing right now.
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    Last edited by xRitzx; 10-01-2013 at 04:24 AM.

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    Player ashikenshin's Avatar
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    Kyuyuna Shadowsun
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    companion armor is armor for your chocobo companion
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