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    Yoshida also said in the interview that players will be incentive-ized to do lower lvl dungeons through the DF for a reward of tomestones and even using a roulette queue for similar rewards so on top of the other content being added I think it addresses the issue of only having one dungeon to get tomestones from. Unless they troll people and only the lower level tomestones are given as DF rewards. I just hope the MvP function will put a stop to people being rude and whatnot although what would really solve it is a option to flag much like the join in progress option that you want to be grouped with people who are after tomestones but that's basically asking for a speedrunning flag and Yoshida explicitly stated that the mobs placed in instances and dungeons are there to be cleared not skipped so I doubt such a flag to choose would ever be implemented.

    While that last bit was neither here nor there it stands to reason that fights like Good King Moogle Mog and Leviathan will launch with up to equivalent difficulties of the first 3 primals meaning we'll have Moogle and Leviathan extreme modes ready to fight. What intrigues me though is how they'll handle the alternating updates to coil and Crystal Tower since locking either into ilvls forever would be well odd. If I had to guess they'll prob have the 1st 5 turns of Binding coil be Ilvl90 with Tower's 1st wave being ilvl 80 and then when tower gets updated it'd prob get ilvl 90 then on Coil's next update it'd have ilvl100 and the content for max ilvl gear would then alternate back and forth.

    This approach makes the most sense since it will avoid one content to be completely written off at the expense of the other completely and rather it would simply have one type of content written off temporarily. If anything I expect Crystal Tower to essentially be like Nyzul Isle from FFXI where your progress is saved and not wiped and if you want to get tokens for some of the higher ilvls that the Tower has to offer you have to have completed previous floors otherwise you can jump ahead but you'll be more reliant on direct drops/chests.

    EDIT: Also I re-read the interview and there wasn't any mention of being able to tackle Crystal Tower with the Duty Finder, Only a explicit statement that it is intended to be tackled before Coil. I may have missed where he said Crystal tower is available on the Duty Finder but I can't find it for the life of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nimrod View Post
    lots of stuff
    Anything after level 50 that requires level 50 jobs is end game. Anything that requires 8+ people is a raid (this means that its possible to have a low level raid if SE adds that in the future).

    Crystal tower isn't out, people saying its easymode are exaggerating just because Yoshi said it would be easier than the Coil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoLo View Post
    Anything after level 50 that requires level 50 jobs is end game. Anything that requires 8+ people is a raid (this means that its possible to have a low level raid if SE adds that in the future).

    Crystal tower isn't out, people saying its easymode are exaggerating just because Yoshi said it would be easier than the Coil.
    Well thats the point right? HE SAID AS DEVELOPER/PRODUCER:
    - they needed time to tune the bosses down so it will be accessable for casual PuGs in DF groups in 2.1
    - and its going to be content u would do "before" entering a step in Coils - so ilvl80 inbetween stuff to do which is "easier"

    (source was an live letter, cant remember exactly which one and another source was an interview)

    He all said that himself. So im not exaggerating in my conclusions at all its a fact that he gave us how they handle the endgame. With Coils already beeing good tuned Boss per Boss as he said, i believe in his words on this information aswell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylek View Post
    Cry babies crying
    Look! I spotted the ones with no life!

    Seriously though, if it's seven months until you no lifers see content you want? Then take a seven month break. A game isn't here to completely occupy your life. That's stupid on several levels. If you don't want to wait then don't. Stop paying your monthly then pick it back up when the content comes out. All you guys do is complain, complain, complain. Isn't it tiring? Wouldn't you rather do ANYTHING else?

    Insane how you guys think, I'll show SE how stupid they are by being angry about the new content they are releasing that many other people will enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nimrod View Post
    OFF-T




    And thats where the name comes from - Gramul is the first person to get it right in over 14 years . Most do think it comes from greenday or which they were called -_-.
    I don't think the Crystal Tower from Final Fantasy III is suppose to be the tower of babel. In FFIV there is a dungeon called Tower of Babil which is a play on words of the tower of babel.

    From Final Fantasy Wiki:
    "The Tower of Babil is named for the Tower of Babel from a story from the book of Genesis in the Old Testament/Torah, as well as other various ancient documents. The story tells of how early humanity united together to build a great tower that would extend to the heavens so they could see God. However, God destroyed the tower, scattered humanity throughout the world, and confused their language, so that they could never again unite to challenge God's authority."

    "The Tower of Babel is mentioned as one of the wonders in Final Fantasy Tactics. It bears the following description:

    A legendary tower that extends to the heavens from deep below the earth. Also called the Tower of the Colossi, this mighty spire withstood the Cataclysm, and is a priceless remnant of ancient civilization. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by nimrod View Post
    more words about the endgame not being to his liking.
    Just because you think tuning something down is not considered endgame doesnt stop making it endgame you are just rage reacting and its making you look bad to everyone reading every new post you make. Anything level 50 is end game no matter if its in a duty finder, tuned down, or whatever you think isn't considered uber enough to your taste. If I can further expand my character growth past level 50 with an activity that I am doing then its end game point blank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nimrod View Post
    Well thats the point right? HE SAID AS DEVELOPER/PRODUCER:
    - they needed time to tune the bosses down so it will be accessable for casual PuGs in DF groups in 2.1
    - and its going to be content u would do "before" entering a step in Coils - so ilvl80 inbetween stuff to do which is "easier"

    (source was an live letter, cant remember exactly which one and another source was an interview)

    He all said that himself. So im not exaggerating in my conclusions at all its a fact that he gave us how they handle the endgame. With Coils already beeing good tuned Boss per Boss as he said, i believe in his words on this information aswell.
    Easier than Coil ( but how much easier?) Maybe the low levels of Crystal Tower, but how about middle/top of tower? Yoshi didn't specify how easy or hard at all. So how hard it's going to be exactly is all speculation.
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    So a 24 man that's easier and has worse loot than the 8 man we'll have had for many months?

    I could see clearing through it easily once....and then it being pointless to run.
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    I dont know why everybody is making a big deal about this. There is a decent amount of content right now, they are going to alleviate the single dungeon grinding issues and fix the missing tier to coil, as well as adding in the new primal stuff and some extras. Thats not that bad for 3 months.

    They promise a major update every 3 months, which is relatively fast.

    I hate to compare to WoW, but its easy so I will. How often does Blizzard push out new content? Every 6-8 months? Most of the time it just includes a new daily area and 8 boss raid. If SE can do what they promised and do that every 3, my hat goes off too them.

    People just need to calm down and stop zerging everything like the game will crash if they dont finish turn 5 in 2 weeks.
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    They seemed to have really screwed themselves for future end-game content by the very poor itemization and gear progression they currently have in place. I have no idea why AF2 or other iLevel 90 gear is even accessible already and even more so completely outside of endgame raids. Even worse is the method they are obtained.

    2.0 should have had an iLevel 70 cap. Crystal tower should have been itemized with iLevel 80 gear and iLevel 90 gear should have been added when they add more content to coil. With the current system, a huge chunk of content is just going to be ignored by a lot of people that have just been grinding AK over and over. Who is going to do the new primal fights other than just killing them once? Even if they add primal armor, anyone going after the harder ones/extreme fight are going to have Relic/Relic+1 and a bunch of AF2. I doubt the primal gear is going to be any better.
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