This is why quest markers make the game for 2 year olds

[Naylia]

So there are a variety of quest types already in the game and hopefully they will use the various mechanisms to offer more challenging content in the future, as well as add new quest mechanisms:

Side Quest types:
- Instanced - you get to a region and it puts you in an instance for a special battle - Location to enter instance marked on map - in this case you pretty much need to stand on the exact spot to trigger so map makes sense - challenge should be via difficult/interesting battle

- Kill X Special Mobs quest - the spot indicated is the exact location of the special mob type - challenge should be via diffiuclt/interesting battle with unique mob

- Kill X Normal Mobs quest - the spot indicated is the general region for the normal mobs (ie...Galagos near Tranquil) - apparently challenge is in finding X of the normal mob, which are suddenly hunted to extinction

- Visit NPC quests - the spot indicated is the exact spot - this type of quest I'd like to see switched to general region marker, with the use of clues to identify who I might need to talk to

That's all I can think of, there may be more types...

[DNO]

The only thing i hate is your posts complaining about everything. Shiyo you are MY quest marker. i want it gone!!!!!

OT they are not bothering anyone so please shhhhhhhhhh forever.......

Also SE is not stupid.. every single person looked online for where to go next in every quest in FF11.... and they know that. why make us do that again? Modern MMos are fun not time sinks. Also Shiyo if you played FF11 you used the external quest marker all the time just like everybody esle (a PC and a site call ala)

[Felis]

The quest map in the journal window is since beta ingame. If you don't want to use it, then don't push the button and open the normal map only.
I did the R20 leatherworker quest too, and I didn't needed to open the quest map and the normal map because I knew where the chocobo is.

[Hitoriki]

I like the quest thingies. :3 Im all for making the user interface more user friendly.

[Nuru]

Lets throw more crap at SE so we can stall them on working on the actual, more important updates! \o/ Thats what we truly need right? Cmon guys! Who's with me? I already have one member on my side who i am very proud of! My best buddy Shiyo!

[quantumsaint]

So DON"T PLAY IT. It's not like you're paying for it. "Most of us are probably not going play MMOs for a while." There you go, thinking you represent everybody again. If you don't like the game now, you probably won't like it later. That doesn't mean others won't enjoy it.

[Shiyo]

So DON"T PLAY IT. It's not like you're paying for it. "Most of us are probably not going play MMOs for a while." There you go, thinking you represent everybody again. If you don't like the game now, you probably won't like it later. That doesn't mean others won't enjoy it.

I am representing the people I talked about, who talked to me, saying this is their last hope, and if it fails they won't play MMOs for a while again. Not you, not other people, simply the people I personally talked to who agree with a lot of my opinions. Why couldn't you understand that from what I said?

[BrusselSprout]

Disagreeing doesn't mean you should attack me, that's the problem. People disagree and instantly start to assault the person who disagrees with them instead of trying to figure out why they think that way, and come to a mutual understanding.

Nope, we all pretty much understand where the disagreement comes from: you think you're really awesome. That's fine, you probably are awesome. The problem is, suggestions should not begin "Im awesome and youre not, so: xyz"

[Shiyo]

Nope, we all pretty much understand where the disagreement comes from: you think you're really awesome. That's fine, you probably are awesome. The problem is, suggestions should not begin "Im awesome and youre not, so: xyz"

I think I'm awesome? No, I don't think I'm "awesome" that I can autorun to the chocobo stables, then autorun back. How did you even get this from my post? I want the game to be more challenging and encourage people to pay attention and try, is this a crime now? I don't understand peoples replies to me at all, it's like you're so offended I think this game is too easy...

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Disagreeing doesn't mean you should attack me, that's the problem. People disagree and instantly start to assault the person who disagrees with them instead of trying to figure out why they think that way, and come to a mutual understanding.

You just don't know how to make a point without sounding respectful to the other side who either like the opposite of what you're arguing or don't have a problem with it.

You just do not have great skills when debating an issue. No matter how small it is. Your opinion, to you, seems highly sophisticated and everyone who disagrees are "stupid". Please grow up.