Skill is more important than gear in this game

[jcw005]

sure, better gear will give you higher chance to win but no skill will lead to lose always. Last night I saw a i45 gear healer did much better job than these healer with relic+1 in Titan HM. that's df Group. running to the wrong spot and die will ruin the fight no matter how good of your gear. People just need more practice with good attitude. It is not some game like the tie2 gear could reduce Dmg by 5"%.etc war hammer, or rift. So overall skill without mistake is more important in this game.

In other words, if a highly-skilled level 50 brought crafting gear into Titan HM with you, you wouldn't mind, right?

[Ryuhkin]

Skill comes from doing something a lot of times, practicing and stuff. You practice a lot doing a lot of AK/ifrit and to a certain extent CM. So you get gear too doing those things

That's the skill of memorization and application, which is valuable for farming content and to some extent new content. Mastering your job uses this, and quite a few types of attacks or techniques needed to complete higher content come from skills you gained in lower levels. This cumulative building is great, but doesn't help that much to build the skill of adaptability which is key to blazing trails through new and unseen content to your group.

My gear isn't all that great yet, so I can dodge being called an elitist. Woo~ :P

[Eclipsed]

sorry but skill will only take you so far before you need to upgrade gear as others have said. I'd like to see you take your super skilled whm and your super skilled dd's and tanks and throw on that level 1 weapon you got when you started the game and try and beat the fight...

Maybe an extreme example but sorry gear does matter. No matter how skilled you are if you don't have high enough weapon damage as a DD or enough stats to heal the amount needed or to give you enough hp to take the hits from the mob you just are not going to win. Far too many people are getting carried by people who have put in the work and saying, "but I beat it before! I must be able to do it again!". Which is entirely not true. When you put that same player in a group with similarly geared people, they fail time and time again.

And even more sad is the fact that people are so ignorant that they don't even realize that they have been carried in the past... We really need DPS/Heal meters in game so we can show these people just how bad their performance was.

[Jeronlmo]

Both are required in endgame, which you are likely not yet at. Coil turn4 you better be pulling 180dps or be prepared to wipe.

[Jeronlmo]

It is a pure shame that the elitest argument always semms to rear its ugly head in online video games.

However, there is but one simple way to explain it.

Gear is simply not every thing and is not what always determines the fate of a fight. It does however make good players great and great players perfectionists. The great players tend to not need a hand up, where the good players need all the help they can get.

Gear score, item level, what ever you want to call it these days is not the end all be all that defines us or the outcome of a battle ingame, it is merely a way to determine someones dedication and time spent playing. The rest boils down to brain power, understanding a fight, the ability to adapt to "oh ^&%$" moments and the countless amount of other variables that always seem to plague us in this industry, BSoD's, lag, loss of connection, distractions etc etc.

At the end of the day, it boils down to what you are happy with and can it be done with a monumental amount of effort, after all, what feels better for you, trivializing a fight or being the under dog and rising to victory? I tend to choose the later, as I prefer my time spent playing feel some what rewarding, even if the virtual experience of it all is some what, pointless.

One last thing, just remember, on the other end of that screen is not a player, but a person. A little common courtesy can go a long way in to grooming someone to becoming that next perfectionist.

I really do wish you were correct, in ff11 you could do a lot of things even in somewhat gimpy gear, it would just take longer and a lot of skill and knowing your abilities perfectly with good macro's, generally via kiting, but sadly in this wow-clone, gear means everything, people in wow don't even understand what stats are for, you literally just equip w/e gear has the highest score on it because that gear is always better (as long as no pvp stats are on it.), and the same thing is headed here, so get ready.

[Dreamer]

Healers are about the only class that can get by with a low gear score. It's not happening with a tank if you don't have enough HP and mitigation to actually survive high damage attacks and no amount of skill is going to get you past the various DPS checks if your DDs don't have the gear to do the required damage.

Simply not true. A healer is just as dependent on gear as any other class in the game. For example, going from an ilvl45 cane to Ifrit's Cane increased the healing done by my Cure I by over 200 HP. That's a MASSIVE difference. An undergeared healer is going to have have to cast twice as much as a properly geared healer and will be out of MP very quickly unless you have bard's mage ballad and plenty of ethers as a crutch.

[Hachiko]

Both skill and gear are the same.

Both are necessary.
Neither are sufficient.

Why can people not understand this?

[Eclipsed]

Both skill and gear are the same.

Both are necessary.
Neither are sufficient.

Why can people not understand this?

Truer words have yet to be spoken on these forums...

[Jinko]

Been pointed out but just wanted to reiterate that no amount of skill will alllow you to out dps hard checks of "do this amount of damage or you die" or "have this amount of health/be able to do this amount of healing or you die". Both of which exist within the Titan fight. So to amend your statement, on a fight like Titan having good gear is no less and no more important than player skill.

All primals have this.

If you don't dps the nails fast enough - dead.
If you don't dps garuda fast enough she will destroy rocks - dead
If you don't dps titans heart fast enough - dead.

It's all dependent on gear at the end of the day, Ifrit you can sort of cheat with a LB3 on the nails though.

[Aicasia]

I really do wish you were correct, in ff11 you could do a lot of things even in somewhat gimpy gear, it would just take longer and a lot of skill and knowing your abilities perfectly with good macro's, generally via kiting, but sadly in this wow-clone, gear means everything, people in wow don't even understand what stats are for, you literally just equip w/e gear has the highest score on it because that gear is always better (as long as no pvp stats are on it.), and the same thing is headed here, so get ready.

Wow, what a load of BS. It's cool if you hate WoW, but don't talk about shit you know nothing about. It will just make you look like an idiot.