Base Classes Irrelevant

[Earthen]

The reason it seems weird is because its incomplete. Only Arcanist is complete. Once we get more second Jobs for the existing classes, it will feel better and that you're actually makeing a choice. I do agree that being the base class does seem to have little purpose, especially given how many hp/mp you get just for equipping a soul crystal.

[Kallera]

What the game needs is more solo/companion content, because that's where classes hit their stride, providing the actions needed for survivability. Makes me wish there was a lot more to the Beastman strongholds. a sparse affair someone can chocobo their way through does not scream "Military Force that holds its own against the City States."

[Abyssion]

No reason to GLAD, when you become PLD, superior in every way.. who cares if we have to give up a few cross class abilities.

[Zantetsuken]

Every Job needs two base traits that significantly alter stats and key abilities from it's core class.

For example

PLD: +10 VIT -10 STR -- 'Paladin's Fight or Flight' Change to: Increases enmity generation by melee attacks by 30%

DRG: -10 VIT, +10 STR -- 'Dragoon's Blood for Blood' Change to: Increases damage and critical hit rate by 20% and while reducing defense and critical hit resistance by 25%

WHM: -10 INT, +10 MND -- 'White Mage's Cleric Stance' Change to: Swaps INT and MND attribute ratings, adds 10% enmity reduction effect to attack spells while reducing potency of healing spells by 20%. Effect ends upon reuse.

**Disclaimer: obviously not balanced, but you get the idea

Also, Classes should get their own version of iconic (artifact) armor and at least one or two class-exclusive abilities.


Classes need to be more heavily tailored to Light Parties and Soloing, while Jobs are focused on Full Parties - (or very high-performing light parties) Players should find soloing with a Job to be difficult (either Tanks and Healers shouldn't be able to do enough damage, or DPS shouldn't be able to survive the hits)

[Kelg]

Every Job needs two base traits that significantly alter stats and key abilities from it's core class.

For example

PLD: +10 VIT -10 STR -- 'Paladin's Fight or Flight' Change to: Increases enmity generation by melee attacks by 30%

DRG: -10 VIT, +10 STR -- 'Dragoon's Blood for Blood' Change to: Increases damage and critical hit rate by 20% and while reducing defense and critical hit resistance by 25%

WHM: -10 INT, +10 MND -- 'White Mage's Cleric Stance' Change to: Swaps INT and MND attribute ratings, adds 10% enmity reduction effect to attack spells while reducing potency of healing spells by 20%. Effect ends upon reuse.

**Disclaimer: obviously not balanced, but you get the idea

Also, Classes should get their own version of iconic (artifact) armor and at least one or two class-exlusive abilities.


Classes need to be more heavily tailored to Light Parties and Soloing, while Jobs are focused on Full Parties - (or very high-performing light parties) Players should find soloing with a Job to be difficult (either Tanks and Healers shouldn't be able to do enough damage, or DPS shouldn't be able to survive the hits)

I agree with this, as of now the system is of poor design.

[Estellios]

Classes being able to pull from other classes gets much larger in scope once you step back and realize that they are going to be adding more classes over the life of the game that existing jobs likely won't be able to pull abilities from.

[Bablioteca]

i believe thammy can stand up to black mage mainly because everything you need on blm comes from thaumaturge anyways. Thaumaturge has access to internal release and blood for blood in addition to sharing raging strikes with black mage. They're probably an exception though i've heard monk doesn't offer all that much over pugilist either.