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    I was lucky I suppose. I was healing and fully determined to watch my cutscenes for my first play through(so F@#$ anyone else) and fortunately so was the other healer. Everyone was trying to rush through everything but if they rushed in w/o paying attention to healer cutscenes and died no one blamed us. People would just say "Wait for the healers to finish CS" and we moved on with a nice run.
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    i'd be all for ideas like this...IF and only IF they also made it so Cutscenes didn't cut into the time required to complete instances.

    I did praetorium or whatever its called with a group who insisted on watching every cut scenes to its fullest. (i dont blame them since its the end of the story and kinda badass...) BUT...the timer is rolling the entire time. We made it to the end with 10 minutes left...and only died once because 2 people got disconnected. (other delays were explaining fights to noobs) time limit gets too close for comfort when people watch ALL the cutscenes...
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    Here's the problem with this line of reasoning.

    You can only run Castrum for the first time once. After that, it is no longer your first time and you fall into category 2.
    The number of people running Castrum for the first time will dwindle rapidly the longer the game is out, meanwhile the people speed running will increase.
    Queue times will increase for people in category 1 who will then beg for something to be done.
    People will want everyone inconvenienced because a small number feel inconvenienced and slighted.

    Something should be done but it needs to be addressed in a way that is a net positive for everyone, rather than sharing a negative with everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvokerKeii View Post
    Here's the problem with this line of reasoning.
    As people enter category 2 would they not just continue to run as they are now? Speedrunning when they can, enjoying helping others via a bonus. The status quo for the moment is to run it whatever category you are in since it is a strong source of tomestones.

    I don't really get how queue times would increase, besides just the level 50 population growing. The queues for both categories should remain the same. Only when the gear is obsolete will queues begin to increase, which means speedruns will cease altogether, but that is normal via horizontal profession.

    I think you are under the impression that once you move from one category to the other that you no longer can queue with the other. Under those circumstances, yes category 1 queues would increase, but that is not what is suggested.
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    I don't know about you guys, but if I have forced down times in a dungeon I go do something else on the side and come back to check on the game 2 to 10min later...
    Well usually I play with friends so they tell me when to come back because they don't want to die, but if I'm solo it's bound to happen that you'll get a healer afk when you go on with your dungeon...

    oh well not my problem, one more wipe or not because of an afk heal is not a big deal imo
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    Actually that's not a shit suggestion. I'm especially fond of your second point. Incentivizing patience is very clever. Hats off to you sir. I wish there was a way to differentiate though where it only locks if someone is that "first time" guy. I'd hate to think trolls can continually re-watch the CSs locking everyone into them time and time again. The "story experience" excuse is like a "get out of jail free" card. You get that pass once, shouldn't be infinite because the opposite abuse is then open. Closing one abuse door and opening another is just bad design.
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    Last edited by AngryNixon; 09-20-2013 at 12:35 AM.

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    I'd rather do a quick run, skipping all cutscenes, so I can quickly requeue afterwards than spend twice as long as necessary because someone wants to watch them. Besides, there are far too many asshats who AFK in cutscenes, or AFK at the starting point, and get free Tomestones. This game needs a vote kick function in duty finder groups as well as a fix to cutscenes that allows people to just sit in them endlessly. I've seen far more of that going on than actual players wanting to watch them. Besides, if you want to watch cutscenes, you should go in with friends who will wait for you, rather than inconvenience the majority of the playerbase who you know is there for a farming run. Or better yet - you can always go back to your inn room and watch the cutscenes there on your own time.
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    Last edited by Leiloni; 09-20-2013 at 12:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    Besides, if you want to watch cutscenes, you should go in with friends who will wait for you, rather than inconvenience the majority of the playerbase who you know is there for a farming run.
    And that's the crux of the argument. The vast majority of players running these dungeons have already completed them. Yes, it's unfortunate for new players, but the fact remains that we've already done/seen this place dozens of times. There have been several very reasonable compromises and suggested improvements to the current system. At least everyone can agree that we need something different than what we have right now.
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    They could separate the queues a little.

    [ ] New
    [ ] Experienced

    You could check a box for which group you want. Then everyone's happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldSerenade View Post
    They could separate the queues a little.

    [ ] New
    [ ] Experienced

    You could check a box for which group you want. Then everyone's happy
    Also a great suggestion. You choose, you own the consequences. Personal responsibility +1. And it also side steps arbitrary locks on things. This is too much work on SE's party frankly but I wish that, in addition to the two check boxes, the "experienced" choice runs the instance sans any CSs at all so it's not even a possible issue of skip or no skip anyhow.

    On that note, please add an option to turn CSs off entirely after the first time you run something.
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