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  1. #41
    Player seekerofpower's Avatar
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    Virtuous Abyssus
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Do people not know that the SCH healing pet increases all party members healing by 20% (including the WHM that may be in your 8 man), increases magic resistance by 20% and has a Regen all ability?
    Do people not know that the SCH support pet increases spell speed and skill speed by 30% and has a silence ability?
    Do people not know that SCHs have both heals, absorb shields, damage reduction shields and cleanses?
    How anyone can think a WHM is a better healing class blows my mind. A competent SCH that utilizes all of their abilities can be the difference between a successful run and a wipe, just like a good WHM can.

    Also, I would take my FCs WAR over any GLD you can throw at me.

    It is all about the player. A great player can make any class seem overpowered compared to a mediocre player.

    1. Learn to play your class properly.
    2. Play all classes, for comparison.
    3. Come back here and if you still feel a class is OP, people might take you seriously.
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    Last edited by seekerofpower; 09-20-2013 at 04:00 AM.

  2. #42
    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Gl with a war versus titan...
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  3. #43
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    ppl like to talk about HOW OP the other classes are ....but in the end SE is who rules the show ,and buff/nerfs are going to happen. A mmo is alway evolving and changing.

    SE will add fixes in 2.1 and probably buff the classes that needed, im sure Mnk and War are going to get the most love.

    Nerfing? well it happens (See RNG in FFXI) , in FFXI ppl stacked classes for bosses too ,made encounters easy (18 blm Divine Might or BST/SMN partys , or MNK groups on the last LM), and avoided others like the plague, even leveling (blm vs colibris for example)

    FFXIV 2.0 has only 1 month of live and has still to see a patch...."please look forward for it"
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  4. #44
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    neizero's Avatar
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    Nei Prime
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RoosterAgathos View Post
    As constructive as your statement is.. Care to elaborate on your rotation is.. I love a good snarky remark on the forums and make a few my self but i ALWAYS back up my statements. Please feel free to do the same with yours.
    I simply meant BRD will easily out dps an equal geared/skilled MNK or DRG. So if you say "some" are outdpsing you, they are either better geared or more skilled (or both). There is no set rotation for BRD, it is a priority system like most classes:
    - Keep crit+ self-buff up close to 100%
    - DoT uptime as close to 100% as possible
    - Combine dmg buffs (Blood4blood, raging) with long CD attacks eg. fire circle thing....
    - Barrage on cooldown.
    - Always be "casting" (ABC) something even while moving.
    - Bloodletter as often as available (should reset often thanks to crit buff and high DoT uptime)
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    Last edited by neizero; 09-20-2013 at 08:34 AM.

  5. #45
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    RoosterAgathos's Avatar
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    Whiskey Six
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by neizero View Post
    snip
    So...nothing new, and definatly nothing original.

    So this is how you can choose to look at it as i do.. you can think my dps is mediocre and those 3 or 4 people of all my runs were carrying me..while everyone else was just awful and made me shine... While i most certainly think that of your situation. . all conjecture really... but if we can ever cross sever pvp. I'll drop you a line.
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  6. #46
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    Onimal's Avatar
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    Character
    Onimal D'bane
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    IF you take a SCH vs a BLM with equal int and gear you'll find that SMN + Pet out damage the BLM. SMN can outdamage DRG/MNK as well when played properly.
    Does that mean they're better? no. BLM has faster burst than SMN - which is required. DRG/MNK have a strong 1 target LB.
    SCH heal differently than WHM - they're more DPS + Healer than anything.

    They'll tweak them come 2.1, but OP? Ha, classes fit the player and the situation.

    But I'll say something, fighting Ifrit with 2 war, 2 WHM, 4 dragoons is a pain in the ass.
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  7. #47
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    Leonas's Avatar
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    Leonas Dias
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by neizero View Post
    - Combine dmg buffs (Blood4blood, raging) with long CD attacks eg. fire circle thing....
    I seriously, seriously want to know why they removed archer from MNK/DRG skill lists for 3rd subclasses and replaced with MRD.

    I mean honestly, why does BRD ( No offense to BRD players. ) Get both of the flat damage buffs ( Raging Strikes and Blood for Blood ) While having competitive and comparable, yet easier, dps than the melee classes... who don't get access to Raging Strikes. DRG and MNK had archer as third subclass in beta, but they changed it to MRD. Why. Just Why.

    * Cries in a corner. *
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    When all is lost,
    All is in vain.
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    Rivers of swords must join as one,
    Only then shall the spell be undone.

  8. #48
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    Wise Hime
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50

    So job vs job

    let say you got 2 ppl with BiS gear and do know there job like pros
    if one job always out dps the other by 3-8k, dont you think one overpowered vs the other? it be better if it by 1k so if you hit the cit like mad you win one time with dps.
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  9. #49
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    Pyreflye's Avatar
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    Character
    Nugget Highwind
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    What's all this "balance isn't a problem in PvE" nonsense that people are spouting.

    If a single class had a weapon at lvl 50 that had 200 damage, +50 to all stats and provided that person only with a 90% damage reduction, would you still say the same?
    Balance is required in PvE just as much as any PvP game out there.

    Just because you're helping the group, does not mean that balance has to go out the window.
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  10. #50
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    Zakrias Ronel
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Guys, please notice the dates of this dang hear half a year old thread....
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