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  1. #11
    Player
    Roci's Avatar
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    Roci Dahealz
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Balance of classes has been and always will be an MMO issue. The people that play the stronger classes scream and yell at everyone because they like being at the top. Those below them scream and yell because they don't get picked for the groups. Everyone wants to be the hero, no one wants to be left behind.

    I'm not the biggest fan of "nerfing" and prefer to see them add utility or buff classes that are lacking. Issue with that is, if you buff classes to much it forces mechanics into raid bosses that just are not fun. While it sucks, nerfs tend to be the better choice.
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  2. #12
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    Atriese Lolo
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    well it may be a pve game but it still requires party use in the end and if a class is alot better then why use it? when i can simple stack the best 1 or 2 damage classes and forget the rest.
    Yeah... but why hurt a class that ultimately helps the GROUP.. lol I have seen good people in all classes just saying. Its all on the player
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  3. #13
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    Gohlar's Avatar
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    Roland Bigcheese
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 34
    Quote Originally Posted by iPlayBad View Post
    Can people really complain about something being OP in a PVE game?
    Is that possible?
    Suggesting balance doesn't matter in a co-op game makes no sense at all. Of course it's possible.
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  4. #14
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    KogaDrake's Avatar
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    Koga Dragontaker
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldSerenade View Post
    That's the point, other classes get left out.

    1) If you have a choice between a Warrior or Paladin, you choose the Paladin.
    2) If you have a choice between a BLM or Monk, you choose the BLM.
    3) If you have a choice between a WHM or Scholar, you chose the WHM.

    I haven't heard anyone asking for a "nerf" but I have seen lots of posts asking for buffs to make their classes more viable at endgame. Which is good. (usually)
    Beyond the tank setting (i.e., 1) for titan and coil i would disagree with everything said here.
    WAR is fine to tank anything but for a few instances and the difference between PLD and WAR for story/4man is so more in player skill (PLD is easier to play so pug you go to pld for higher chance a better tank due to it being easier to play)

    when it comes to DPS classes, some are simple and easier to play with less movement needed (BRD, BLM) than others which need to keep up the rotation (MNK, DRG) and this leads to a bias to the easier ones as when you dont know the player the easier class is goign to more consistently be a better dps.

    Healers, its the fact that SCH does so much for the party that is not visible in the parser that has lead to this WHM are better since people look just at those numbers and nothing more. 4man, either is perfectly fine, 8man 1 of each is really best, although 2x of either works fine also.
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  5. #15
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    coffeepotz's Avatar
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    Character
    Vazeel Stalgeant
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    There WILL be pvp, ya know.
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  6. #16
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    Character
    Gerson Seillivon
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I don't understand how people can rage about OP jobs. Why don't we just 86 all dps other than BRD? Let's do away with WAR as well we won't need it since it takes more dmg than PLD. Trash SCH too. Oh wait tho there can be different builds for each job? Better let every class only use one set of gear as to not topple the OP stat structure. Please lol.

    Everyone has there role, and you job is only as powerful as you make it. There is more to being useful in a fight than straight dps.
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  7. #17
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    Regis Trahein
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    lol this game is designed so class stacking is not necessary at all. If your players are competent you can do a wide variety of whatever jobs you want and be perfectly fine in any dungeon.
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  8. #18
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    Conradus's Avatar
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    Conradus Leviathan
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Atrious View Post
    Yeah... but why hurt a class that ultimately helps the GROUP..
    Because it doesn't matter how much the class helps the group if you don't get to be *in* the group because all the slots are taken by the class.
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  9. #19
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    Lady Luck
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
    Suggesting balance doesn't matter in a co-op game makes no sense at all. Of course it's possible.
    Co- Op? Oh you mean those craptastic dungeons. All people want for those is for you not to be under geared. They don't care if your class is labeled "OP" if you're in all whites, they don't want you.

    "Ermehgerd he burned a mob down faster than me" It's a mob, who cares.
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  10. #20
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    KyteStones's Avatar
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    Character
    Vergil Savickas
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Honestly i may have to stop playing the game if they were to nerf any class. Most people bitching about the classes needing nerf is because they dont know how to use the class properly to make it an effective class. I have run many many dungeons, some where an archer out ranks me in damage because he's fully attune to it or has all of his supporting abilities, which I do not. The I'll run it with a different bard, with a complete 180, same or identical gear, horrible damage/dps etc. Its not the classes fault, its the people who don't know how to use them properly.
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