Overpowered Classes?

[savant07]

Summoners currently hold the spot as #1 DPS (this is on fights when their DoTs are allowed to tick more than 10-15s like boss encounters) in single target. No one comes close. They hold it as high as 20-30% ahead of other's. I think they are doing roughly 280-320 DPS with Relic Weapon and Darklight gear. They might be toned down as no class can even come remotely close to them.

That to me is the overpowered class.

[makii]

I'm not looking forward to SE wasting time and resources on PvP so 5% of the playerbase can be happy.
Playing Final Fantasy games for PvP doesn't make sense in the first place.

[RoosterAgathos]

Sorry to break it to you but you must be doing it wrong

As constructive as your statement is.. Care to elaborate on your rotation is.. I love a good snarky remark on the forums and make a few my self but i ALWAYS back up my statements. Please feel free to do the same with yours.

[OrganizationXIll]

Because some class provide too much benefits and give less interest in having other class which will eventually lead to other class being no longer admitted in groups.

This is the case for :
- Bard vs other dps. Bard got everything , burst dps, high dps on long fight, no movement penalty, group utility with songs.
- Paladin vs Warrior. In this case it is more the warrior being underpowered but the result is the same. Warrior are less viable for end game. They cannot MT coil, yet paladin can do both MT and Off tank.

I agree for the most part. My solutions.

Bard needs a fairly decent sized nerf in the way of tp usage. (Use more TP) Also, a very slight damage nerf. (Maybe just lower criticals)

Paladin is fine, although superior. Warrior is what needs a change and what I think would help is to lower the HP recovery skills recast and slight increase to damage recovered.

Also, I believe Monk needs a buff. I think if you double the speed gain of greased lightening to 10% a buff, (for a total of 30%) it would help tremendously. As of now, if falls behind in DPS unless it is a really long fight when the others start to fall off and since Monk does not.

[RoosterAgathos]

I agree for the most part. My solutions.

Bard needs a fairly decent sized nerf in the way of tp usage. (Use more TP) Also, a very slight damage nerf. (Maybe just lower criticals)

What i think people fail to see is that other classes have situation uses. A lot of raids will have DPS checks and i am sure more are on the way... but if they start using DPS magic checks or require a timed single target limit break.. bard are out. and a new nerf will be called for because Job X is overpowered. Nerfing any class is only a disservice in the long run to everyone.

[HurtigeKarl]

Because some class provide too much benefits and give less interest in having other class which will eventually lead to other class being no longer admitted in groups.

This is the case for :
- Bard vs other dps. Bard got everything , burst dps, high dps on long fight, no movement penalty, group utility with songs.
- Paladin vs Warrior. In this case it is more the warrior being underpowered but the result is the same. Warrior are less viable for end game. They cannot MT coil, yet paladin can do both MT and Off tank.

Bard does not have stun, bard does not have silence. I.e. doesn't have everything.

[Zoeila]

i dont think any classes are OP at the moment but i do think some classes are better in certain situations than others. the problem is theres more situations where class A is better than class B than there are where class B is better than class A.

[Bane766]

At least in this game you can have the same classes on the same character. Now gearing them up is another issue, of course. But, yes, obviously as MMO's progress there will always be buffs and nerfs to classes. It's the nature of these games.


And I think, TC, that people have sufficiently, pointed out why people are calling out for the buffs/nerfs for the classes. They don't want their chosen classes to be left out of raid slots/groups. It sucks playing one of the 'underpowered' classes-and being forced to change your class just for a raid spot. But as I said before, such is the nature of MMO's...balance is an evergoing process and will never be 'perfect'.

[Thotor]

Bard does not have stun, bard does not have silence. I.e. doesn't have everything.

Bard has silence. In fact, it is the main silencer for end game.
Stun are available on PLD as a anytime without CD so there is no need to have it on bard anyway.

If you really want to list what Bard lack compared to other DPS, it's the Limit Break. Either way it does not change the fact that bard provide too much compared to other dps.

[Ryios]

Things being OP in a PVE game is of concern to people that are a class that is not OP. E.g. I'm a warrior and I've already experienced getting benched or skipped to do something because I don't have a stun on a short cooldown and I don't have as much mitigation as a paladin.

If people are the UP class like (Mnk) no one wants to take you when they can take 2 blm's instead.

I find melee to be underwhelming in general in this game and would prefer an AK run with 2 ranged dps over 2 melee dps any day of the week. It makes the wall easier and go quickly and the whole dungeon clears 40% faster with ranged dps.

Based on what I've seen,
Ranged is putting out more dmg than melee,
Pld's are the preferred tanks overall and warrior is kind of just there atm, they can do it but people would rather have a paladin making me second choice
and mnk is pretty up, or people don't know how to play it.