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  1. #1
    Player
    neizero's Avatar
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    Nei Prime
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RoosterAgathos View Post
    As constructive as your statement is.. Care to elaborate on your rotation is.. I love a good snarky remark on the forums and make a few my self but i ALWAYS back up my statements. Please feel free to do the same with yours.
    I simply meant BRD will easily out dps an equal geared/skilled MNK or DRG. So if you say "some" are outdpsing you, they are either better geared or more skilled (or both). There is no set rotation for BRD, it is a priority system like most classes:
    - Keep crit+ self-buff up close to 100%
    - DoT uptime as close to 100% as possible
    - Combine dmg buffs (Blood4blood, raging) with long CD attacks eg. fire circle thing....
    - Barrage on cooldown.
    - Always be "casting" (ABC) something even while moving.
    - Bloodletter as often as available (should reset often thanks to crit buff and high DoT uptime)
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    Last edited by neizero; 09-20-2013 at 08:34 AM.

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    RoosterAgathos's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Whiskey Six
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by neizero View Post
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    So...nothing new, and definatly nothing original.

    So this is how you can choose to look at it as i do.. you can think my dps is mediocre and those 3 or 4 people of all my runs were carrying me..while everyone else was just awful and made me shine... While i most certainly think that of your situation. . all conjecture really... but if we can ever cross sever pvp. I'll drop you a line.
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    Leonas's Avatar
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    Leonas Dias
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by neizero View Post
    - Combine dmg buffs (Blood4blood, raging) with long CD attacks eg. fire circle thing....
    I seriously, seriously want to know why they removed archer from MNK/DRG skill lists for 3rd subclasses and replaced with MRD.

    I mean honestly, why does BRD ( No offense to BRD players. ) Get both of the flat damage buffs ( Raging Strikes and Blood for Blood ) While having competitive and comparable, yet easier, dps than the melee classes... who don't get access to Raging Strikes. DRG and MNK had archer as third subclass in beta, but they changed it to MRD. Why. Just Why.

    * Cries in a corner. *
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    When all is lost,
    All is in vain.
    When Good and Evil,
    Unite in pain.
    Rivers of swords must join as one,
    Only then shall the spell be undone.

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    MomoOG's Avatar
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    Vicas Windwalker
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Are some of you really this daft to not realize that PVE also has competition? The most obvious is the competition to get a spot in organized groups for end game content. When there are options, organized groups will bring the most optimal classes. If one dps/ tank/healer significantly out shines another, the UP class will not be included.
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    Kraggy's Avatar
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    Character
    Kerin Kor
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RoosterAgathos View Post
    Just a thought I had. Why are so many people up in arms about one class being overpowered over another?

    Aside from “class stacking” why would anyone call for a nerf of a class that deals damage or heals better then another?
    It's an MMO, some people think success in an MMO says something about them as people and God forbid that something is other that "I'm uber". Some elitist raiders demand 'efficiency' over everything and the min/maxers come up with the 'required' class build to be just that: efficient.

    So, someone whose in a raiding shell/FC run by min/maxers lives in fear their class isn't the one that's OP because they may lose their raid slot.

    Pure and simple this is all it comes down to: fear of becoming un-irreplaceable in a raid.
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    ChrysaorUSon's Avatar
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    King Tycoon
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Yeah these ppl have an overrated self conscioussness to be the best, but your going to fail and fall. Everyone does eventually, so they need to get over themselves. They call themselves elitist, but there will always be someone better than you I promise you this. Play the game to have fun, and dun play it like its your damn job. I've solo almost everything up till lvl 40 so that tells you right there I am not an elitist, i know know wth I'm doing, and dun rely on parties that much.
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    thuswindburn's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaiser Permanente
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysaorUSon View Post
    Well, I have war which is almost 40 and if you gear it right and get good upgrades you can perform just as good as the pld, because I have done just as good as a pld. Its about how you do your combos in succession to get massive hate generation. I can bust off chains and combos so fast that the pld is like "good lord man, I can't even get hate!"
    Yea, get to endgame first.
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    AngryNixon's Avatar
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    Character
    Angry Nixon
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Don't bring PvP into it for the love of FSG. PvP should be isolated and have a completely different balance that comes into effect for that and only that. Balancing the game around PvE and PvP simultaneously in one harmonized configuration is impossible and causes an endless spiral of bad decisions. Balance for PvE. Balance for PvP. Find a way to switch between the two, perhaps only while you're in the PvP arena or w/e certain buffs & debuffs activate that have the effect of re-balancing your particular class. The two should never mix, it's a recipe that only leads to shit stew.
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    savant07's Avatar
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    Ashen Valanar
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Summoners currently hold the spot as #1 DPS (this is on fights when their DoTs are allowed to tick more than 10-15s like boss encounters) in single target. No one comes close. They hold it as high as 20-30% ahead of other's. I think they are doing roughly 280-320 DPS with Relic Weapon and Darklight gear. They might be toned down as no class can even come remotely close to them.

    That to me is the overpowered class.
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    makii's Avatar
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    Luny Lulune
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 31
    I'm not looking forward to SE wasting time and resources on PvP so 5% of the playerbase can be happy.
    Playing Final Fantasy games for PvP doesn't make sense in the first place.
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