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    Quote Originally Posted by darkm0d View Post
    Botting =/= "hacking".
    Why is there always at least one person in hacking threads flat out making excuses for hacking? In this case, they are both hacking AND botting, and even if they would be doing only one of those things it would still be a bannable offense, so what is your point exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anderian View Post
    Why is there always at least one person in hacking threads flat out making excuses for hacking? In this case, they are both hacking AND botting, and even if they would be doing only one of those things it would still be a bannable offense, so what is your point exactly?
    It's just poor phrasing. I guess overtime hacking has gotten a lot more of a loose usage, but it should mean breaking into a computer system. It's an IT industry related word. If I spawned in ARR with a bazooka I wouldn't be "hacking" I would be "cheating".

    They (the bots) are probably just using a program that exploits certain designs in the game. To me, at least, and most definitions, hacking is the virtual equivalent to breaking into your house, not being able to breathe in space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkm0d View Post
    It's just poor phrasing. I guess overtime hacking has gotten a lot more of a loose usage, but it should mean breaking into a computer system. It's an IT industry related word. If I spawned in ARR with a bazooka I wouldn't be "hacking" I would be "cheating".

    Eitherway...you are still wrong.


    It IS hacking. Its a downloadable third party program that hacks the client to give false positioning information back to the server to teleport to nodes. no walking. Characters can NOT teleport to nodes using traditional bots. Bots are usually third party macro programs that record keystrokes or mouse movements. This is a HACK because it actually changes client and server data to meet a pre determined goal. in this case positioning of the character.


    The character THEN uses BOTS to script his mining behaviour to target specific gathering attempts.

    So in essence it is both...and in violation of the games terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tezeret View Post
    Eitherway...you are still wrong.


    It IS hacking. Its a downloadable third party program that hacks the client to give false positioning information back to the server to teleport to nodes. no walking. Characters can NOT teleport to nodes using traditional bots. Bots are usually third party macro programs that record keystrokes or mouse movements. This is a HACK because it actually changes client and server data to meet a pre determined goal. in this case positioning of the character.


    The character THEN uses BOTS to script his mining behaviour to target specific gathering attempts.

    So in essence it is both...and in violation of the games terms.
    Agreed. It is hacking. Hacking is not just breaking into someone's computer.
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