BLM vs Bard

[Nihility]

every damage dealers actual output is pretty equal, its just bard can keep doing damage while playing dodge the red spots making it go way past everyone that has to stop and reposition over and over

[LeviathanElite]

every damage dealers actual output is pretty equal, its just bard can keep doing damage while playing dodge the red spots making it go way past everyone that has to stop and reposition over and over

It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that fair>? How is that good game design?

[arctic]

It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that fair>? How is that good game design?

It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that NOT fair>? How is not catering solely to you not good game design?

[LeviathanElite]

It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that NOT fair>? How is not catering solely to you not good game design?

Because you move while casting attacks and have short cooldowns.

I (a pure dps oriented class) do less damage while staying it the same spot to cast much longer spells.

[arctic]

Because you move while casting attacks and have short cooldowns.

I (a pure dps oriented class) do less damage while staying it the same spot to cast much longer spells.

Go roll Monk. A class that can move and pump out tons of hits and still have trouble registering on the dps meter. You have no idea what's not fair.

[LeviathanElite]

Go roll Monk. A class that can move and pump out tons of hits and still have trouble registering on the dps meter. You have no idea what's not fair.

A common thing when someone acknowledges they can provide no further points. Attributing to something outside of the direct argument that is barely relevant to the topic at hand.

I am aware of the monk's problems and they do need a massive buff. But this is the BLM vs Bard thread.

[arctic]

A common thing when someone acknowledges they can provide no further points. Attributing to something outside of the direct argument that is barely relevant to the topic at hand.

I am aware of the monk's problems and they do need a massive buff. But this is the BLM vs Bard thread.

I'm sure you think you said something there. But you really didn't. Unless you really did just admit that all this is - is just you not being good enough to out dps bards. It's not about "fair," it's just you and your feelings of inadequacies.

I know plenty of great BLMS can keep up and pass up bards during boss fights. So this truly is just about you.

[EtherRose]

Because you move while casting attacks and have short cooldowns.

I (a pure dps oriented class) do less damage while staying it the same spot to cast much longer spells.

Uhh, what? BLM's Flare Can do up to 2k if not, more. BLM's do ALOT of DMG (Assuming you know how to play it and good rotations), but i'm going to assume you don't. This is just basically another QQ thread of "I want BLM's to be able to move while casting", which will NEVER happen.

[Warlyx]

It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that fair>? How is that good game design?

tell that to monks lancers , but yeah is all about ME and MY JOB. that must be top dps

u want the best of every world

high surv : manaward , manawall , teleport
high dps : AoE and single
No MP problems
Good Limit Break : Meteorite
utility : sleep aoe. slow +heavy , resistance buff for the party (apoca)

and on top of that u guys want to do that on the move? sure, then we all can be BLMS and no1 will need monks lancers or bards (well maybe 1 for requiem so the other blms can enjoy more dmg)

[Nihility]

well honestly i wasn't saying it's fair just that's the entire reason behind it

something like changing "increased action damage II" to a different effect and removing the song penalty would probably actually boost party effectiveness and bard would still be comparable damage

really monk has so many downsides it should be the top damage, so much positioning and comboing, and buff maintenance required while also forced to melee for the worst damage of the dd's is way off