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    What they need to do is buff melee DPS: Monk and dragoon, they're currently doing really worse DPS than ranged: BLM, BRD and SMN.
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    Parsers are not accurate atm so dont even bother using them as "Fact" or "Accurate". SMN, BRD, and BLM having many DoTs.

    Between Brd's constant small dmg with TP being a factor and BLM's large spike dmg with unlimited MP, I consider the jobs on par for their roles.

    The only advantage Brd has is DPSing on the move with no interrupt.

    Between XI and XIV all BLMs do is complain they aren't top DPS. Then they become top DPS, they exploit/stack and SE drops them a notch. Then they complain more. Rinse and Repeat.

    In Closing....

    Blue Garter MUST BE DOING IT WRONG. 2BLMS ON TURN 4! OMMMGGGGG!!!!!!! What's this? A MNK on TURN 4 AAAAAAARRRRGGGGG! Only 1 BRD, NOOOOOOO!!!
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    Sigh, another bad player posting misconceptions on classes they don't know how to play.

    Current dps rankings under ideal conditions; SMN > MNK > LNC > BLM > BRD > BRD (singing)

    Current dps rankinds under realistic conditions; MNK > BLM = SMN > LNC = BRD > BRD (singing)

    This was tested over 6 minute and 30 second sessions on test dummies and over 100 Titan runs. Thus far results are holding true in Coil up to turn 5.

    Basically, if you are getting out dps'd by bards, as any class, it's not the class...it's you.
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    Hehe...duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CursedCoffee View Post
    Sigh, another bad player posting misconceptions on classes they don't know how to play.

    Current dps rankings under ideal conditions; SMN > MNK > LNC > BLM > BRD > BRD (singing)

    Current dps rankinds under realistic conditions; MNK > BLM = SMN > LNC = BRD > BRD (singing)

    This was tested over 6 minute and 30 second sessions on test dummies and over 100 Titan runs. Thus far results are holding true in Coil up to turn 5.

    Basically, if you are getting out dps'd by bards, as any class, it's not the class...it's you.
    I do know how to play the class, and its funny that you are the only one saying monk does the most dps when literally everyone else here is saying how terrible they are.

    Where did you get these numbers? 100 titan runs? Bahamut coil tests? Where is this data?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeviathanElite View Post
    Where is this data?
    Where is yours OP? You started this poor thread based on zero Theory-crafting, zero data and pure assumption and opinion.
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    Seriously ive met tons of your kind in various mmo's and i seriously fail to understand what drives you people in to askin for nerf nerf nerf and even more nerfs on classes
    Learn to ask for class improvements thats more constructive.
    Today is Bards you target tommorow its gonna be somethin else and dont even try to convince me eitherwise its how people like you tick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorin View Post
    Yeah, right.
    Yes, this is correct. Thank you for agreeing with the above statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeviathanElite View Post
    I do know how to play the class, and its funny that you are the only one saying monk does the most dps when literally everyone else here is saying how terrible they are.

    Where did you get these numbers? 100 titan runs? Bahamut coil tests? Where is this data?
    I can release data eventually. Right now it's a complete mess. But all the top guilds run monks for a reason. The only reason...the ONLY reason they ever get sat is because half of this game's content really hates melee. But the class has one of the highest dps outputs right now.

    You can either follow the actions of world class guilds, or believe the nonsense people cry over their own shortcoming in general discussion. Your call.
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    Hehe...duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CursedCoffee View Post
    MNK > BLM
    Yeah, right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorin View Post
    Yeah, right.
    ^

    He claims I dont know anything about my class, then proceeds to come up with a "100 titan. bahamut coil test" false citing, and then claims monk does most dps in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CursedCoffee View Post
    Sigh, another bad player posting misconceptions on classes they don't know how to play.

    Current dps rankings under ideal conditions; SMN > MNK > LNC > BLM > BRD > BRD (singing)

    Current dps rankinds under realistic conditions; MNK > BLM = SMN > LNC = BRD > BRD (singing)

    This was tested over 6 minute and 30 second sessions on test dummies and over 100 Titan runs. Thus far results are holding true in Coil up to turn 5.

    Basically, if you are getting out dps'd by bards, as any class, it's not the class...it's you.
    This guy gets it. Bards have so much damage handicaps it's not even funny. If you are being out DPSed by a Bard, it's because they're a better player than you.
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