BLM vs Bard

[Nihility]

well honestly i wasn't saying it's fair just that's the entire reason behind it

something like changing "increased action damage II" to a different effect and removing the song penalty would probably actually boost party effectiveness and bard would still be comparable damage

really monk has so many downsides it should be the top damage, so much positioning and comboing, and buff maintenance required while also forced to melee for the worst damage of the dd's is way off

[arctic]

OKAY!~ OK! Ok, so how about this BLMs - Us bards promise to always nerf our dps by putting up Foe Requiem to give you your elemental damage boost when we're in parties together. That way you can wave your top dps e-peen, and us bards don't have to get nerfed because we won't have as much dps as you. See? You win! You get to tell everyone about how big your DPS is!

Now, for Dragoons that want Bards nerfed ~ Hawha, you can go sit in the corner and play with the monks till you realize how good you have it.

[Vanex]

Really? Sweet!

[Teleniel]

From a Tanks perspective.

Summoner is my favorite DPS job assuming nothing needs to be slept. Sharing DoT's across things does not build up aggro very fast, so it's very easy to tank for you.
Black Mage is my second favorite DPS job. You have Sleep (and some of you even use it). You have very nice spike damage and will not sputter out in a fight.
Bard is my THIRD favorite DPS job. Spike Damage is great (let me have more than 1 action before you blow your load). Limit Break is useless in 4 man content.
Monk / Dragoon are tied at the end. Stun skill, and Single Target LB are really the only things I'm happy with here.

From a DPS perspective.

I love that Bard doesn't have cast times. That's why I leveled it, even if it was low on the totem pole for damage I can be mobile while I DPS.
I like the idea BLM has strong support with being able to sleep targets, and that I never have to worry about running out of MP.
I don't like playing Summoner, trying to keep focused to keep DOTs up when things just die quickly makes me feel useless even if the damage ticks away.

I don't like Monk/Dragoon the attack range is too small so if things fidget I can't hit them and most of my combo's are only average unless I'm running in circles around the enemy.

[UBERHAXED]

Bards already have nerfs: Abilities that reduce DPS, LB that does no damage as a DD, and of course you are all ignoring the fact that all bows are weaker than every other weapon in the game (everyone had equal attack stats except for archers (yes, including healers and tanks), in addition to no unconditionally usable moves with higher potency than their level 1 move. If you are being out damaged by a Bard, it's because the Bard is a better player than you and knows how to work around all of his disadvantages.

[LunarEmerald]

I can already see Bard being nerfed because people keep bitching about it. Anytime a large portion of people bitch, something gets nerfed.

[LeviathanElite]

I can already see Bard being nerfed because people keep bitching about it. Anytime a large portion of people bitch, something gets nerfed.

Or they could buff the other classes?

[Nihility]

Or they could buff the other classes?

it's far easier to tune one thing that's above the rest down than tune everything else up

[Enforcer]

Summoner does the highest dps and overall damage in the game FYI.

[DoctorPepper]

Hahaha ranger was one of the first jobs in XI to get nerfed and it's looking like history might repeat itself here if people are already whining about it :P GG SE