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Thread: BLM vs Bard

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    Hikozaemon Kenkonken
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    blm has far superior dps especially w/ groups of monsters doing 1700+ flare crits on numerous mobs back to back to back is alot more than the measley brd numbers.
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    Darx Zap
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    FIX FOR BLM:

    Remove global cooldown on instant cast proc spells. IE: Swiftcast Fire III will not have a global cooldown, allowing the player to immediately start casting another spell. This imo would be a TRUE instant cast. The current form of instant cast saves only roughly 1 second, instead of a full 2.5 like it should. Right now, an instant cast still has a 2.5 second cooldown, then for BLM another 2.5 second cast for the next spell, that's 5 whole seconds of nothingness, it doesn't feel right. Likewise, Thundercloud proc Thunder III would have no global cooldown, allowing the player to immediately return to casting.
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    Snickle Fritz
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    There is a very annoying lag in the FIRE III proc as well.
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    Tenebria Miku
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    every damage dealers actual output is pretty equal, its just bard can keep doing damage while playing dodge the red spots making it go way past everyone that has to stop and reposition over and over
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    Feanor Morgoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    every damage dealers actual output is pretty equal, its just bard can keep doing damage while playing dodge the red spots making it go way past everyone that has to stop and reposition over and over
    It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that fair>? How is that good game design?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeviathanElite View Post
    It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that fair>? How is that good game design?
    It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that NOT fair>? How is not catering solely to you not good game design?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic View Post
    It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that NOT fair>? How is not catering solely to you not good game design?
    Because you move while casting attacks and have short cooldowns.

    I (a pure dps oriented class) do less damage while staying it the same spot to cast much longer spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeviathanElite View Post
    Because you move while casting attacks and have short cooldowns.

    I (a pure dps oriented class) do less damage while staying it the same spot to cast much longer spells.
    Go roll Monk. A class that can move and pump out tons of hits and still have trouble registering on the dps meter. You have no idea what's not fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeviathanElite View Post
    Because you move while casting attacks and have short cooldowns.

    I (a pure dps oriented class) do less damage while staying it the same spot to cast much longer spells.
    Uhh, what? BLM's Flare Can do up to 2k if not, more. BLM's do ALOT of DMG (Assuming you know how to play it and good rotations), but i'm going to assume you don't. This is just basically another QQ thread of "I want BLM's to be able to move while casting", which will NEVER happen.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LeviathanElite View Post
    It keeps coming back to the same question. How is that fair>? How is that good game design?
    tell that to monks lancers , but yeah is all about ME and MY JOB. that must be top dps

    u want the best of every world

    high surv : manaward , manawall , teleport
    high dps : AoE and single
    No MP problems
    Good Limit Break : Meteorite
    utility : sleep aoe. slow +heavy , resistance buff for the party (apoca)

    and on top of that u guys want to do that on the move? sure, then we all can be BLMS and no1 will need monks lancers or bards (well maybe 1 for requiem so the other blms can enjoy more dmg)
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