BLM vs Bard

[LeviathanElite]

So the highest damage output is between these two from my estimates, but I feel like bard has a much higher dps assuming equal gearing. How is this fair considering the bard can move around and attack with little to no "cast times" for his/her bard moves. The black mage sits in 1 spot and has long cast times (even with thundercloud/firestarter procs, it does not make up for lost time), and has significantly less dps than the bard?

How is this balanced?

[shinros]

Well everyone knows that bard does the most and knowing SE they will most likely tone them down. So relax.

[Mithent]

I've tended to find BLM most welcome for sleep and our LB (shared with SMN of course, though they seem to be fairly rare themselves).

[LeviathanElite]

Well everyone knows that bard does the most and knowing SE they will most likely tone them down. So relax.

I am just afraid of playing the class I find to be most fun also being a far inferior class. They could also just buff us to bard level. Anything that would equal the playing field.

[LeviathanElite]

bump for discussion

[Musashidon]

why is it bad that blm is 2nd place? i mean it sounds to me that mnk and drg need a rebalance not these two if they aren't even considered in the running.

[Ruethryl]

Part of problem is that BRD was "re-balanced" at the last minute to go from primarily support to pew-pew.. if they're actually putting songs out and such it'll cut their damage by 20%.. but good luck finding BRDs that'll do so sometimes.

[LeviathanElite]

why is it bad that blm is 2nd place? i mean it sounds to me that mnk and drg need a rebalance not these two if they aren't even considered in the running.

Umm, can Black mage take damage like monk and drg can? dont think so... In any game, tradeoffs have to be taken into account. Black mage gets 1 shot by a sneeze, so in turn they should have at least equal damage to bard. You are missing the point. They are both ranged dps, and one should not have much faster cast times, be able to attack while moving AND do way more dps.

[Sentinel]

Cutting BRD's damage outright is not the answer, they need to give utility buffs to other DPS in the game (maybe TP song equivalent to DRG/MNK and MP song equivalent to SUM/BLM) and also add some type of "steady shot" to BRD in order to make sure they have some mechanics where they need to stand in one place.

[silentwindfr]

the main..."strength" of the bard are:
- can use him skill while moving
- attack from far
- have infinite tp.

him damage alone are not that good, but it have all the good point of the caster and the melee.

about the drg tradeoff, they are at close range and have the worst magical defense (most of the attack hitting the drg are magical damage).
i think like sentinel, the skill of the bard must be rethink and he need to get some skill that make him stand a bit.