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    Problems i have found while leveling as a Scholar

    things Lacking from Scholars:

    1) no way to remove debuffs till lvl 40, this is a big issues for us, boss fights that have them, we can't cross skill esuna, so removing them is impossible, and healing through the damage is next to impossible as well.

    2) once we go scholar, only 2 healing skills and the skills from our pet, another problem, yeah its great we got healing pets, but they can't keep up with a lot of the damage dungeons out put same with the total 2 heals we have at this point, plus getting new skills doesn't help as if we try to run low lvl stuff it locks the skill.

    3) confusing people with the in game info on how Scholars benefit from Intelligence over the mind stat, this is a complete pain as well, all us arcanists stacked int cause we had no choice, so once we go scholar we have to blow 10,000 seals, or stack mind, making us very weak, or forcing us to use cleric stance.

    so yeah those are the 3 main problems i have with Scholar, love healing as one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solgath View Post
    things Lacking from Scholars:

    2) once we go scholar, only 2 healing skills and the skills from our pet, another problem, yeah its great we got healing pets, but they can't keep up with a lot of the damage dungeons out put same with the total 2 heals we have at this point, plus getting new skills doesn't help as if we try to run low lvl stuff it locks the skill.
    The ONLY issue I had healing from 1-50 was Brayflox and it was only when I had a tank that (for whatever reason) failed to avoid the poison breath of the final boss. Past that, I've had no issues healing on SCH. I even ran Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium last night and still had zero issues healing. Not saying things went perfect, but we did win with plenty of time left.
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    yeah, that dungeon is my pet peeve atm, freaking Brayflox and the last boss, tanks don't seem to under the screams of the healer asking them NOT TO STAND IN STUFF, really shits me, that and it seems odd, that they don't let us cross class skill the esuna white mage skill, would make it so much easier >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solgath View Post
    3) confusing people with the in game info on how Scholars benefit from Intelligence over the mind stat, this is a complete pain as well, all us arcanists stacked int cause we had no choice, so once we go scholar we have to blow 10,000 seals, or stack mind, making us very weak, or forcing us to use cleric stance.
    You have the choice, if you knew you were going to be more of a sch than a smn then you know that MND is more helpful than INT then you should put the point in MND you are nor force to put it in INT if you dont want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    You have the choice, if you knew you were going to be more of a sch than a smn then you know that MND is more helpful than INT then you should put the point in MND you are nor force to put it in INT if you dont want.
    no actually, going by all in game information Scholars use int, be it a type-o or a but, its miss leading, and all the info i saw clearly stated scholars used INT, i didn't care so much, i just went and used my seals and reset my points, not that it really help that much when u consider, we get 2 heals, our pet heals, and no way to remove debuffs, someone got lazy when creating the 2nd healing class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solgath View Post
    no actually, going by all in game information Scholars use int,[snip], its miss leading, and all the info i saw clearly stated scholars used INT, i didn't care so much, [snip] we get 2 heals, our pet heals, and no way to remove debuffs, someone got lazy when creating the 2nd healing class.
    I'd like you to reference me where you saw that SCH uses INT. I'd like to see the sources (screenshot if you see this in-game). AFAIK, SCH uses MND and our heals are buffed with increased MND and increased Base Magic DMG on our grimoires.

    We have a way to remove debuffs, it's called Leeches, please do your lv. 40 class quests and use it, ASAP.

    I have no problems healing on SCH, and I pretty much enjoy healing on SCH over healing on WHM (which is also lv. 50). The way I see the way the pet heals is that you can direct your attention to two people if they both need healing. Adloquium also gives a nice shield that shields them from a specific amount of damage.
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    guess you missed the part where i was trying to run Brayflox, and at lvl 34 which is the sync level, you lose access to higher level skills, plus i am only lvl 32, nor would it matter if i was any higher, i did see a pop up in game once i became a scholar about int, but i since been unable to find it, nor do i care as i stated i changed my stats anyway. so before you jump on he bashing band wagon, relearn how low level dungeons work ASAP.

    some people just don't seem to read the whole post, but no matter.
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    Last edited by Solgath; 09-19-2013 at 11:31 PM.

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    Not being able to remove debuffs until 40 isn't a big deal...you can heal threw anything before then, ran Brayflox many times and it was never an issue.

    We actually get 4 heals + our pet...unless you mean when you first turn scholar, then yea, but its all you need...and our pet is beastly healer, so not sure what your complaining about...actually DC'd once in ampdor keep right as the tank pulled 3 mobs and Eos(faerie) kept the tank up while I was DC'd

    And the int thing, I've never seen anything that...the int traits are a bit of a waste, they should just make it piety so that way it wouldn't be a complete waste

    wait until you run amor...am...something vale, horrible with names...your pet will drop dead on the first boss and your screwed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solgath View Post
    well not sure what the issue was then, i could not keep the tank up at all, but then that could have been more the tanks issue than mine, i couldn't remove the debuff so he would keep standing in stuff getting stacks, even with my pet, i was running out of mana and the tank would get one hit from the boss due to almost 4 to 5 stacks of the last bosses poison.
    He's not supposed to stand in stuff. You never want to stand in stuff. That's basic MMO stuff. If he's getting 4-5 stacks of Poison on him he's an awful tank and I don't know why you would think that's your fault at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    He's not supposed to stand in stuff. You never want to stand in stuff. That's basic MMO stuff. If he's getting 4-5 stacks of Poison on him he's an awful tank and I don't know why you would think that's your fault at all.
    I healed a very derp tank with 4 stacks of poison just fine.

    Not having leeches before 40 is just annoying in case you need to remove a slow and what not. OP calling it a problem is just silly.

    So far my only problem is the pet switching back to Guard after you give it an order. Silly fairy does whatever she wants!
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