Bahamut's Coil lockout needs to be addressed

[Carbohydrate_Cares]

Is everyone ok with coil being a 7 day lockout for minimal content? I mean lets get real here, turn 3 doesnt even count as a turn. Me and my FC are currently on turn 4 and so far have really enjoyed the dungeon so far.

The lockout is simply too long for whats inside, there is nothing to do in the game besides wait for coil to reset on mondays. Don't tell me to level crafting or go fishing because that puts most normal people to sleep in 15 minutes(no offence to people who like it, kudo's to you).

[Evilmog]

1 week has been the standard for resets in MMO's for decades now. Nothing new, first I've heard of someone displeased with it.

[Xilrasis]

1 week has been the standard for resets in MMO's for decades now. Nothing new, first I've heard of someone displeased with it.

We were actually discussing earlier how a 1 week lockout for 4 bosses and 8 drops for 8 people is really, really long. 4-5 days would be much more appropriate, in my opinion. Duplicates will mean that it will take a very long time for some people to gear up.

[Evilmog]

Someone didn't play Vanilla EQ I see. 4 mobs, 4 pieces of loot, 6-9 day RANDOM reset. Fun times. Oh yeah, not instanced either.

[SKYeXile]

We were actually discussing earlier how a 1 week lockout for 4 bosses and 8 drops for 8 people is really, really long. 4-5 days would be much more appropriate, in my opinion. Duplicates will mean that it will take a very long time for some people to gear up.

Actually counting myth tokens you're getting essentially around 2.5 "epics" per week. as opposed to classic wow where you would get an avg of i think it its like 1? ...i dunno theres 18 bosses in BWL and MC combined each drop 2-3 items/40. do the maths.

Its nothing close to the amount of epics you can in new WoW or games coming out these days, but thats a good thing.

[Evilmog]

Actually counting myth tokens you're getting essentially around 2.5 "epics" per week. as opposed to classic wow where you would get an avg of i think it its like 1? ...i dunno theres 18 bosses in BWL and MC combined each drop 2-3 items/40. do the maths.

Its nothing close to the amount of epics you can in new WoW or games coming out these days, but thats a good thing.

BWL wasn't vanilla. MC / Onyx was Vanilla, BWL wasn't until 1.6. So the numbers end up even WORSE for the first 10 months there.

[Crescent_Dusk]

I wish people would stop bringing terrible, outdated games with outdated mechanics to justify currently crappy mechanics.

It's pretty much like saying sexism in the workplace in western countries isn't so bad if we remember women were property before. It's a useless statement. The point is whether the current iteration is bad.

[carraway]

The randomized drops inside the instance are kind of problematic. Though the guaranteed drops are preferable to what we had to deal with in 1.0, we'd vastly prefer tokens inside, not just hard-capped currency that can be earned outside of Binding Coil. I personally don't mind the lockout, assuming that future content will fill out the raid week.

[Evilmog]

The point is whether the current iteration is bad.

And it isn't, that's what we're trying to explain. Not all of us want everything handed to us day 1.

[SKYeXile]

I wish people would stop bringing terrible, outdated games with outdated mechanics to justify currently crappy mechanics.

It's pretty much like saying sexism in the workplace in western countries isn't so bad if we remember women were property before. It's a useless statement. The point is whether the current iteration is bad.

Well most people will say they infant enjoyed classic wow and hate the current iteration of wow, i was simply reminding people of how slow classic wows rate of obtaining gear was.