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    The-Alchemist's Avatar
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    Am I the only one who feels kinda screwed by not having a decent FC?

    I was in a FC since beta but when the game went live the broke up after the first event lol. Anyways it feels like I missed the boat as I couldn't gear quickly like people in FCs have been doing. The ones who ran speed runs while possible are light years ahead of most now. While I am stuck grinding Duty Finder AK :C Its an awful slow experience.

    Now it feels all the good FCs are full and the ones accepting want you to have gear that will take a month to get grinding AK duty finde (FULL DL + RELIC)r. It just sucks to behind on the treadmill having a hard time due to the random crappy groups and long que times.
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    You're screwed out of doing Coil without a solid group. Nobody ever shouts for it, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    You're screwed out of doing Coil without a solid group. Nobody ever shouts for it, either.
    I hear the game becomes unplayable without a static group at Titan. Hence you have the "Elite" FC's charging us poor PUGERs to get our relic. To join their FC you need a relic. So they set up a little business charging people to gear up for FC's.
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    If you are not in an FC's "core" group, the game essentially stops for you after HM Garuda. (the last barely puggable endgame boss) Currently HM Titan is borderline impossible in the Duty Finder for a number of reasons and there isn't even a duty finder queue for coil. Even on servers with massive amounts of geared level 50's; you rarely see anyone advertising for HM Titan and NEVER for coil. Why? There are a number of reasons why we have currently, a very "shut-off" endgame. Here are a few:

    - It is only 8 player content

    - With the way the game is designed, leveling multiple classes to 50 and gearing them is a trivial task thanks to FATE grinding. This means that FC's with already established "core" groups are likely to already have people on their way to leveling a 2nd, or even 3rd class to 50, pretty much eliminating any sort of incentive for them to recruit or seek out anyone outside of their "core"

    Those are just the main reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergumenus View Post
    If you are not in an FC's "core" group, the game essentially stops for you after HM Garuda. (the last barely puggable endgame boss) Currently HM Titan is borderline impossible in the Duty Finder for a number of reasons and there isn't even a duty finder queue for coil. Even on servers with massive amounts of geared level 50's; you rarely see anyone advertising for HM Titan and NEVER for coil. Why? There are a number of reasons why we have currently, a very "shut-off" endgame. Here are a few:

    - It is only 8 player content

    - With the way the game is designed, leveling multiple classes to 50 and gearing them is a trivial task thanks to FATE grinding. This means that FC's with already established "core" groups are likely to already have people on their way to leveling a 2nd, or even 3rd class to 50, pretty much eliminating any sort of incentive for them to recruit or seek out anyone outside of their "core"

    Those are just the main reasons.
    That too.. The FCs in this game seem to only get 30-50 people and run one core group. Guess its easier than dealing with a massive guild and many raids going on. Sucks because even an OK guild with 300-400 people you could always find something going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergumenus View Post
    you rarely see anyone advertising for HM Titan.
    I dunno about Ultros, but on Hyperion, I've seen shouts for Titan Hard Mode quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Alchemist View Post
    I hear the game becomes unplayable without a static group at Titan. Hence you have the "Elite" FC's charging us poor PUGERs to get our relic.
    Geez, your server must suck. I'm pretty much stranded on a strange server myself with just 1 RL friend with me, and no LS or FC, and I've had little trouble working on my relics and stuff (besides managing to get a good group for Titan, that is >.>). The only thing I feel I'm missing out on atm is the binding coil, but that's until I finally either go back to my old server or decide to accept one of the lot of FC invitations I've gotten already. >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Ergumenus View Post
    Even on servers with massive amounts of geared level 50's; you rarely see anyone advertising for HM Titan
    Seems like a very different story in Excalibur...
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    Last edited by Klefth; 09-19-2013 at 12:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klefth View Post
    Geez, your server must suck. I'm pretty much stranded on a strange server myself with just 1 RL friend with me, and no LS or FC, and I've had little trouble working on my relics and stuff (besides managing to get a good group for Titan, that is >.>). The only thing I feel I'm missing out on atm is the binding coil, but that's until I finally either go back to my old server or decide to accept one of the lot of FC invitations I've gotten already. >.>



    Seems like a very different story in Excalibur...
    Not surprising. Excalibur is basically the Stormrage of FFXIV. I guess everyone should just transfer to there then huh? You seem to have a bad case of "It's not a problem for me, therefore its not a problem at all!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klefth View Post


    Seems like a very different story in Excalibur...
    Oh theres definitely Titan shouts on excalibur, but they go like this:

    LFM (Titan) (Hard mode primal) MUST HAVE RELIC WEAPON ON ANOTHER JOB. MUST KNOW THE FIGHT INSIDE, OUTSIDE, FORWARDS AND BACKWARDS. ONE DEATH AND YOU WILL BE KICKED


    Which is fine, I guess... Titan is a hard fight that requires almost carnal knowledge of the mechanics. But when learning a new fight, there is no substitution to trial and error. You can watch a "how to" video 100 times and still end up eating a landslide. People don't want to help others learn fights like this. But you can't learn them w/o experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    You're screwed out of doing Coil without a solid group. Nobody ever shouts for it, either.
    actually I do see shouts for it form time to time, and I successfully formed a party (read: formed a party, not won) for turn 1.

    The thing is, Coil requires some coordnation, so if you can't get everyone on some kind of voice chat or not everyone totally knows the fight, you're probably not going to get through it.
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