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  1. #1
    Player
    B00TE's Avatar
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    Rhiyn Saltswept
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Got the 401 error last night, on a card that I had used to buy optional items not three days ago. Have to try again tonight, but given what I've seen in here, I'm not hopeful. Like most everyone else, no problems from my bank, no blocks issued, etc. Sucks UltimatePay is gone, seems like the only other option there was to getting around this system.
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    Anne Wandering
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    Famfrit
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    Botanist Lv 50

    Still trying

    I used my card on the 3rd. It worked fine. Now I cant pay my fees. SE says I am not blocked. The bank says I am not blocked. The bank says SE has a pending $1 charge that they(SE) are not picking up. The bank says it will be five days before that charge is dropped off my pending if SE doesnt fix it. While it is pending it means SE is not picking it up. If they dont pick it up they wont let me pay them my fees. My son in law said he would pay it while we try to sort it out. It gave him a 401 error on his card. He went to his account and bought some crysta to test his card out. It worked fine. It is not the bank. It is not the card. It is SE. My card works everywhere but on SE.
    My garden is growing. It takes a lot to grow onions for the level break for chocobos. I am on stage two. I have about 4 days left, maybe less, to get my main account back on so I can harvest. My second account is tending right now but can not fertilize or harvest. Please. SE I have been loyal to you since 2 years after FF11 started. Thats a lot of years. Dont I deserve to be able to play and to pay for my account?
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    Rhiyn Saltswept
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Just tried two other cards, still nothing. Guess I'm waiting for a few days now or something.
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    It is the or something that has me worried.
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    Anne Wandering
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    Famfrit
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    Botanist Lv 50
    I broke down and bought a game card. Now I am back on the game so my garden wont die but that will NOT pay for my retainers or for my marriage. My husband has his marriage plan because there was plenty of crysta to pay for that already bought. But how can he get married when I cant buy my wedding plan? 20 dollars out the window since we only have one plan?
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    Gilly Wagonagle
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 57
    Has anyone tried purchasing ffxiv through Steam and using the Steam wallet option you apparently gain in the Mog Station instead for subscriptions?
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    Boda Omkka
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    Famfrit
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Have had this issue for months now. Have tried Chase, Amex, Mastercard and nothing works. No Square, my bank is not blocking a stupid charge, the charge isn't even being attempted.

    The last time I called support I told the guy everything I did and he basically said: Yeah, it doesn't work at all for alot of people and there is nothing we can do. We may get more payment options in the future (yeah right)

    Extremely, extremely annoying.
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    Last edited by aldoxzx; 12-17-2014 at 12:07 AM.

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    Rhiyn Saltswept
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Tried a few more cards, still nothing. At this point, just hoping for a crysta card or something from the Squeenix store, but given the few months that have gone by with no alternatives, I'm not hopeful. The only thing I keep getting told is to buy time cards, which is no big deal for me, but I'd really like to have the option of using the optional store again. :/
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    Aronex's House
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by aldoxzx View Post
    Have had this issue for months now. Have tried Chase, Amex, Mastercard and nothing works. No Square, my bank is not blocking a stupid charge, the charge isn't even being attempted.

    The last time I called support I told the guy everything I did and he basically said: Yeah, it doesn't work at all for alot of people and there is nothing we can do. We may get more payment options in the future (yeah right)

    Extremely, extremely annoying.
    I know exactly where you are coming from. I have tried Visa, Mastercard and Pre-paid Visa under their current system. Back when you could use UltimatePay they would still reject my Credit/Debit/Paypal. I actually had to select a Merchant from UltimatePay's 'other' payment methods and choose MoneyBookers which worked every time... Basically I was paying a Merchant to pay a Merchant to pay SE to get Crysta to pay for my accounts. However, since they dropped UltimatePay this is no longer an option and the time on my accounts is ticking away.

    This has been effecting me for over a year now. I will try usually once/week to buy Crysta and 95% of the time will get the 401/601 error which locks payment on the account for 24 hours. I also have multiple accounts and ALL of them are effected (this is useful as I can test multiple theories e.g. cancelling accounts and then trying to pay, re-adding the account then trying etc. none have worked!). Just the other week I went through all of my accounts getting the 401 error until I got to my final account which for some reason processed the payment. There seems to be a 5% chance I will successfully be charged and a 95% chance it will simply be locked for 24 hours.

    Recently I decided to try and fix it once and for all. I read the documentation SE provides on the errors where they simply blame the financial institution. I contacted my financial institution and they performed an investigation. The result was them telling me that they have not rejected any payment attempts from SE and do not even see them in their records. They told me it is completely on the Merchant's side.
    I then went to SE support and made my case even showing them the chat I had with my bank. The action they took was just silly. They dropped the 24 hour lock on the account I had tried to buy Crysta for which of course I knew would not solve the problem and I simply got another 401 error.
    I then contacted SE support AGAIN but this time I got a rep who did not seem to want to help me at all. He tried to tell me he cannot look up my ID because of Final Fantasy XI maintenance (I have not played XI for 4 years and my IDs are long since cancelled). The previous rep had also checked my ID without issue so I knew the guy was just trying to get rid of me so he could go to lunch or something... I then insisted he check another of my accounts which has never been associated with XI. He told me I should just buy game time cards, there is nothing he can do and that I should wait 24 hours.
    At this point I felt both infuriated and betrayed as the second rep had been very disrespectful and obviously had just been trying to get rid of me. It was very obvious he did not read a word of what I was typing when I tried to explain my case to him as he even spammed his copy/paste text as I was outlining the issue. Below is an example of what I am talking about.

    You: I have tried Credit, Debit, UltimatePay, Paypal
    Agent Daniel W: Understood. Well let me see if there is any advice we can give you. I need to verify an account. Please give me an ID.
    You: and I make sure to only try once every 24 hours
    You: all of those resulted in a 401 error
    Agent Daniel W: Understood. Well let me see if there is any advice we can give you. I need to verify an account. Please give me an ID.
    You: However, maybe once every 20 days or so it will work, which only further adds to my confusion
    Agent Daniel W: Understood. Well let me see if there is any advice we can give you. I need to verify an account. Please give me an ID.

    (he never read anything I said)

    Agent Daniel W: Ok, I am sorry but it looks like you have XI or PlayOnline service accounts. We are currently under maintenance for that. I have no access to the account. I would advise you to contact us later in the day when this is finished.
    You: I have not played XI since 2010
    Agent Daniel W: Ok, there is still a service account on this account. I am sorry but it is under maintenance. Are there any different issues I can assist you with right now?
    You: can you remove the XI service account if it is causing issues?
    Agent Daniel W: I cannot even see the account right now.
    You: Interesting.. could you look into another account which was never associated with XI?

    (tried to get rid of me by claiming XI wouldn't let him look at my XIV account. The previous rep had not given this excuse 15 minutes prior)

    You: is there a way to elevate this issue?
    You: I have been trying very hard to figure it out..
    Agent Daniel W: There really is not. I am sorry but you would just need to buy a game time card or just wait a bit.
    Agent Daniel W: Are there any different issues I can assist you with right now?

    (Got rid of me)

    For one; I did not want game time - I wanted Crysta so I could use their cash shop. This was just after 2.4 and there were lots of things I wanted.
    Secondly; I have legacy accounts I am paying $8/mo for doing the 180-day plan.. why would I pay $15/mo via game time cards...

    I have also waited 24 hours over 400 times!!! waiting 24 hours is definitely not the solution here!

    However, the solution to all of this has become VERY clear to me. All SE needs to do is allow you to redeem the $30 60-day game time cards for 3000 Crysta. Then you can pay the appropriate amount for your accounts AND use the cash shop. The game time card codes can also be purchased directly from amazon; so there is not even any shipping involved.

    I really hope a rep sees this post and takes their actions/my proposed solution to this issue into consideration.
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    Last edited by Zerona; 12-18-2014 at 11:51 PM.

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    E'milia Mhira
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    I don't know if this will help anyone but I found a solution to why I was getting this issue. I was entering my debit card number in the format "1234567812345678" (obviously not my real number) and the payment request wasn't even getting to my bank. This seems reasonable cause it works on any other payment site where you enter the card number into a single field. It turns out that you have to manually insert spaces into your card number to break it up into the 4 groups of 4 as it is on your card, so my example number would have to be entered as "1234 5678 1234 5678". As soon as I tried this on a whim my payment went through fine, it's really unintuitive though and I don't like whoever coded that bit of the ui.

    This worked for me so it might be worth a shot for some people also getting these errors, especially if the payment request isn't even being received by your bank.
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