RMT are now advertising crystal/shards - Shards need changed

[Kraun]

Square Enix is currently allowing shards to be depleted, when enough of 1.0's stock are gone they will add in Alchemy/Fishing shard routes again. This will also coincide with some cooking changes.

What's LEGACY servers 1.0 shard stock got to do with non-legacy servers bleeding shards super fast and having to melee farm or buy from RMT botters and thus indirectly supporting them.

[Myrhn]

I will farm shards for you if it take so much of your time, how much you pay me?

[Pinworms]

Everyone has access to shards starting at level one mining and botany. Level your main to 10 and get your gathering job and go get your shards and stop complaining. If your too lazy to farm your shards the go visit the market, find a friend to work a deal with, or don't craft. This is nothing new to the final fantasy mmo series. Level ones could farm shards as any class in XI...for that matter shards just fell into your inventory for killing monsters while you level up. Xiv lets you get shards as level one and its just as easy as XI was. The rtm's are trying the shard market true, so don't buy from them. If the Market looks suspiciously like an rtm is selling something, buy from a legit player.

[Alhanelem]

She's saying in general. Right now, there's no reliable way for anyone except gathering classes to get shards/crystals/clusters.

So play the darn gathering class. Its not like you need to level them up much at all for shards.

[tuseroni]

So play the darn gathering class. Its not like you need to level them up much at all for shards.

this x 100!
someone mentioned it in another thread that these seem to follow this:
x is needed for y
i don't want to do y
i want y
therefore i should be able to get y without doing x.

complaining you can't gather without a gathering class is like complaining you have to be close to the enemy when playing a melee class.
and you hear this argument too:
"in most mmos the gathering class is unimportant"
and i feel that is what these people want, they want the gatherer and crafters to be completely irrelevant, they want to gather with combat classes and get all gear they need with combat classes and do everything with nothing but combat classes.

[Ksenia]

If RMT is reduced to selling level 1 items that have an infinite supply in the game, I'd say SE has already won.

[LordSideKicks]

I mined 2 k shards per day 500 each round takes me 40-50 mins. It is so easy. Just pop some dungeons in between. Or you can kill those wind/fire/snow spirits for shards. Why some ppl are just so lazy?

[rappa]

500-1000 shards are gatherer by DOL 50 in one hour.

Craft a pre-relic weapon time cost 2-3 mins and his price around 25k-30k gils

I prefer waste my time going to the market, buy 100 shards at 30 gil each and craft it than go to the nodes and pick shards. Only i do when i am bored or watching football, anime, film, etc...

Unlucky, RMT earn gil to sell, btw if they don't supply market, the price of the shards will be expensive and force to crafter to gathering it.

The option is ban bots and the market will be filled by humans.

[farlis]

it is quite more than that, most things in armor craft cost 2-3 plates per, a kite shield costs 3 cobalt plates, a cobalt rivet, and something else. That means i need 7 ingots which cost 5 ice shards each, so thats 35 shards for the ingots, 20 shards to convert them into what i need, and then 5 ice shards and 6 earth shards for the final combine. Thats 66 shards just for one synth. so i can spend an hour getting 500ish shards that i will go through in a matter of minutes or buy off the market board and take a bit of profit reduction.

I don't care about them making it easier to get them, i care more about the fact there is tons of rmt bots warp hacking from point to point auto farming shards. When i go to the market board i always try to buy shards from someone who doesn't seem rmt (ie not selling 10 stacks of 1000 shards)

[Maza]

I just use that 400 gp shard bonus (3 shards per swing) and do it when you get the extra attempt, bam 15 right there then farm herbs or mats for other stuff till the gp goes back up to 400 then boom (goes the dynamite) 15 more. Doesn't take too long that way : )