Imagine a game with no levels

[Jibe]

I know he meant we'd have weapon skill up parties instead of levels, but last I checked... I also have a level. So translation or not, they compromised on that idea and many, many, many others that I was excited about until I played retail. Even told myself in Beta they were waiting for launch to pull out the big punches. Sigh.

What's most amusing is how the original site still has stuff that ... will presumably never exist.

Miner being my personal favorite. I check it every now and then to see if they'll even bother to ninja edit their wrong information.

OMG you are right! I checked the official site after reading your post and wow. It lists PUG as having a steal ability "based on stealth", and says miner "can use mineral compositions to debilitate enemies". It also says PUG has multiple stances, but doesn't say how to activate them. I guess this last one is technically true. Just, wow though.

[Physic]

OMG you are right! I checked the official site after reading your post and wow. It lists PUG as having a steal ability "based on stealth", and says miner "can use mineral compositions to debilitate enemies". It also says PUG has multiple stances, but doesn't say how to activate them. I guess this last one is technically true. Just, wow though.

yeah im still waitin for myshoulder tackle, im sure archer wishes they had trinity and poison arrows, and does shreiker exist/make mobs run away?

there is a lot we have yet to see that they said they would have soon after release, least the got rid of participation in the arena of ul dah, and gambling. really if they executed a lot of this stuff properly, people would have loved the game.

[Neptune]

I think instead of reading into Tanaka's interview too much where he said there won't be levels, we should look to the past. It's obvious to me that Tanaka was trying to mold the game after FF2, a game where you literally didn't have a level, you just had stronger skills the more you used them. More powerful hand to hand attacks, or fire magic. I do believe that was the original basis for FFXIV and only after compromise did they add in Ranks and Physical Levels. In other words I think that originally, there were no ranks, just skills that increased from the skill points. But just like everything else in this game they couldn't see the whole picture and just compromised so they could get something that would run live.

[viion]

They are not smart enough to do what they had in mind and fell back on what they knew and the risk they took trying to do something good has caused this massive fk up they're now fixing. By going back to what they know best. And old system that works.

[Neptune]

They are not smart enough to do what they had in mind and fell back on what they knew and the risk they took trying to do something good has caused this massive fk up they're now fixing. By going back to what they know best. And old system that works.

Well said.

[elkhorn]

and combat where position mattered

a game where linkshells could band together and make houses and ships

a game with a rich story

where you are free to play your own customised class

whatever happened to that game?

sounds like Darkfall.

[gifthorse]

sounds like Darkfall.

Great, let's start bandying about similes like they matter.

[Renshi]

and combat where position mattered

a game where linkshells could band together and make houses and ships

a game with a rich story

where you are free to play your own customised class

whatever happened to that game?

Ultima Online! Man, that game is great.

[Verecund]

Whatever happened to the tech demo of that game?