Relic Reborn quest - Job lock removal

[CrstyCaptin]

Not asking to gimp this quest at all, especially titan, but I really feel like being locked to the job you're trying to complete a relic for should be removed(excluding the beastmen/hydra parts). Aside from it totally going against the armoury system, it's incredibly annoying for small ls's, like mine, to complete the titan fight while our members are locked on the jobs we're trying to complete the relic for.

For instance, right now we have 3 blms, a pld, drg and a smn all on the titan phase for the relic quest. Zero healers and the fight is basically a dodge/heal check. Now I don't like healing, I'm not even good at it, but I'd hop on whm for that fight and learn it if it would actually complete the quest for me. I know the other blm who's a sch would do the same. And by doing this we'd be able to stay in the same group and progress as a ls. But because we can't do this, we're stuck on this fight DF'ing relic whm's in AF and 2900 hp sch's and wiping after the heart phase.


Why not clear on whm for the group, then have them return the favor for my relic you ask? Because you'd need to gear their whm's first, then have them learn the fight on whm and finally clear it. That'd take an extra two weeks or more most likely.

Again, not asking for a nerf to the quest, just to open it up to more job options. Not only would this help friends complete the content together (instead of being job locked) but it would also make the content more fun because you could run as different rolls instead of the same one the entire quest line.

[HoolieWho]

You ARE asking for a nerf to the quest. An important part of the relic quest is showing you can play the job in difficult content.

[CrstyCaptin]

You ARE asking for a nerf to the quest. An important part of the relic quest is showing you can play the job in difficult content.

The most difficult part of the quest is getting people who don't wear AF/lv 46 weapons to titan. Not the actual fight.

[Skies]

Pshaw if you're this close an LS you'll run eight Titan Hard fights if need be.
Taking turns in the roles necessary is a thing an LS does! (is what mine is doing at any rate)

[LunarEmerald]

If you aren't skilled enough to complete all challenges with the job then you don't deserve the relic for it. That's how I see it. I'm glad it's this way.

[CSX]

If you aren't skilled enough to complete all challenges with the job then you don't deserve the relic for it. That's how I see it. I'm glad it's this way.

did you like. . .not read his post? or are you just one of THOSE people?. . .

[LunarEmerald]

did you like. . .not read his post? or are you just one of THOSE people?. . .

I read it. A post doesn't necessarily have to be a direct response to the opening post. I'm giving my reason why I think it's a good idea.

[Crica]

If you aren't skilled enough to complete all challenges with the job then you don't deserve the relic for it. That's how I see it. I'm glad it's this way.

While I DO agree with your statement, you have to consider that this IS a MMO and not a single player game.

Which means, regardless of being able to play my job well enough, unless OTHER ppl HELP me, I will NEVER be able to get it.

Which also means, that once ALL the players whom want to tank/heal are DONE with theirs, my DRG/MNK/BLM/SMN may NEVER get any help to get my relic...

Therefore, being able to tank/heal for my DD relics in an MMO game KINDA makes a LITTLE sense, don't you agree?

[Estellios]

While I DO agree with your statement, you have to consider that this IS a MMO and not a single player game.

Which means, regardless of being able to play my job well enough, unless OTHER ppl HELP me, I will NEVER be able to get it.

Which also means, that once ALL the players whom want to tank/heal are DONE with theirs, my DRG/MNK/BLM/SMN may NEVER get any help to get my relic...

Therefore, being able to tank/heal for my DD relics in an MMO game KINDA makes a LITTLE sense, don't you agree?

You need a FC that isn't full of dicks then. All the battle segments of the Relic quest take 10-15 min each and if people don't want to spare that then that's really all I can say about it.

[Tupsi]

Therefore, being able to tank/heal for my DD relics in an MMO game KINDA makes a LITTLE sense, don't you agree?

It also negates the purpose - in XIV/ARR Relics are Artifact weapons which makes more sense to do everything as your job. If this was FFXI, yeah it would make more sense but sadly it is not designed to be as open ended on how you acquire your Relic.