Auto-logout exploit?

[Swishytail]

It's not all about just "logging in to the game", it's about that you have to render all these characters everywhere you go.
I'm sure I'm not alone on this, as there are some camps I cannot even see the "quest" or "levemate" icons above NPCs
because there are 80+ people sitting on top of the NPCs AFK. It can get a bit frustrating.

It goes well beyond clicking start>your character>ok. It still affects the gameplay whether you think it or not. It affects
server load, fact. People who think that it doesn't change anything by having 500+ chars by an aethernet are kidding
themselves.

And even STILL, I have not seen one reason to stay logged in besides "I wanna read FC chat". Log your paranoid ass
off and go outside.

[Crica]

it's about that you have to render all these characters

that would be rendered even if they were not afk... go play the game since you can log in just fine, k?

[Swishytail]

that would be rendered even if they were not afk... go play the game since you can log in just fine, k?

You obviously missed the point. Might want to read the entire post instead of taking snippets out of it.
Debating on whether it's even worth it to attempt to explain, you seem like a guy with a one-track mind.

Taco Bell, think outside the box!

[Crica]

You obviously missed the point. Might want to read the entire post instead of taking snippets out of it.
Debating on whether it's even worth it to attempt to explain, you seem like a guy with a one-track mind.

Taco Bell, think outside the box!

i read your whole post - it said you are upset the server is full of characters to render that would be rendered even if ppl are not afk - so i told you to go play the game since you can log in just fine instead of staring at afk characters being rendered (but you are fine with staring at playing characters being rendered???)

pretty fun solution, dont you agree? /shrug

[Swishytail]

i read your whole post - it said you are upset the server is full of characters to render that would be rendered even if ppl are not afk - so i told you to go play the game since you can log in just fine instead of staring at afk characters being rendered instead of playing characters being rendered....

pretty fun solution, dont you agree? /shrug

So now you assume I stare at AFK characters. Cute. Don't you just know everything? Thank you, o' wise one.
You're right, AFK characters have absolutely 0 impact on the server. You got me! Boy, how silly am I?
Rendering 30 active characters as compared to 30 active + 80 AFK makes no difference.

You sir, win the day. Enjoy! Obvious brick wall, so my job is done here.

-Flies away-

[Crica]

So now you assume I stare at AFK characters. Cute. Don't you just know everything? Thank you, o' wise one.
You're right, AFK characters have absolutely 0 impact on the server. You got me! Boy, how silly am I?
Rendering 30 active characters as compared to 30 active + 80 AFK makes no difference.

You sir, win the day. Enjoy! Obvious brick wall, so my job is done here.

-Flies away-

how ELSE do you know someone is afk for more then the 30mins afk timer unless you ARE sitting there staring at them for more then 30mins?

AND

the server is DESIGNED to render ALL those characters, afk or not, and server load is just FINE otherwise you would not be able to LOG IN because the server load would be at MAX!!!

[Thotor]

So now you assume I stare at AFK characters. Cute. Don't you just know everything? Thank you, o' wise one.
You're right, AFK characters have absolutely 0 impact on the server. You got me! Boy, how silly am I?
Rendering 30 active characters as compared to 30 active + 80 AFK makes no difference.

You sir, win the day. Enjoy! Obvious brick wall, so my job is done here.

-Flies away-

You obviously didn't understand him. If you have afks around you , that means you are not doing anything productive either as you no reason to be where afks are standing.

[Pugmalion1]

You obviously didn't understand him. If you have afks around you , that means you are not doing anything productive either as you no reason to be where afks are standing.

I haven't run into this issue, so this is a hypothetical, but...

If we've established that talking to an NPC or interacting with an object is a confirmed way to go AFK and avoid the kick timer, and that exploit becomes the preferred way for people to do just that, it can become extremely frustrating for people who have legitimate use for that NPC or object to actually interact with it in an optimal environment due to lag and rendering issues aggravated by throngs of idle characters crowding around a single point in an area.

Like I said, aside from the summoning bells in the markets, which are an issue and are being addressed (not likely related to AFKers, but actual in-game use, however), I haven't seen this anywhere else. I'm just saying that I can see a similar issue developing in popular sanctuaries if the user base that wants to go AFK for an extended period of time increases past a certain point. Is it high priority problem? No. But I think if Square really wants to stick to their guns with this kick timer, they should probably quash the workarounds to avoid it. Either go all in, or take it out.

[Evumeimei]

i read your whole post - it said you are upset the server is full of characters to render that would be rendered even if ppl are not afk - so i told you to go play the game since you can log in just fine instead of staring at afk characters being rendered (but you are fine with staring at playing characters being rendered???)

pretty fun solution, dont you agree? /shrug

If people are AFK it is because they are not currently playing. If they were logged out, their characters would not have to be rendered, thus creating less lag, etc. for other players. It's that simple. Why do people even need to be logged in AFK for hours? People keep aksing why others care, but what I want to know is why people do it in the first place if they are going to be gone for a long while... I don't get it...

I get why people do it, why wait any amount of time you don't have to right? I don't like waiting either. Unfortunately that's also why the game systems have to be modified to ensure game stability since us western gamers are notorious for only looking out for number 1, everyone else is everyone else's problem.

People seriously can't wait a few minutes to log on when they get home from work or whatever real life stuff they were doing? Really?

So... People with poor PC spec will now blame other people instead of themselves? I have not had any issues with rendering characters, and even if I did, I would not blame that on other players.

Okay, fair point. It's not a problem I personally have, anyways. I just think that if you are not playing you should just log out. I don't see the merit of staying logged into a game if you are not playing it or why people try so hard to find ways to stay in-game AFK when a timer is implemented.

Because they paid for the game and want to.

This way of thinking is so perplexing to me. 0__0 It's not like being AFK in a game makes you get your money's worth. That only comes with the time you actually spend playing.

Anyways, I've given my two cents on the matter already.

It's amazing, but yes, there are some people who cannot be bothered to wait even a single minute to login to a game, at least not willingly, and don't care who else they might be affecting by their actions.

I don't doubt that it happens. I guess I'll just never really get it. Honestly, people being AFK doesn't really bother me all that much. It's the mentality surrounding it that bugs me more. Ah well, the servers are stable for now, and people will continue to do what they want, I suppose.

[Crica]

Why do people even need to be logged in AFK for hours?

Because they paid for the game and want to.



Why do ppl even need to play the game for hours? Because they paid for the game and want to.